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Post by cdcrossy on Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:09 pm

hi got a letter addressed to the legal occupier i sent a letter 2 yrs ago but cannot find it and with the online bbc now being in with tv licence has anyone got a updated letter to send back so i get another 2 yrs thanks in advance.

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Post by daveiron on Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:50 pm

Why bother,just ignore it .You are not an occupier anyway.

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Post by Tom Bombadil on Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:05 pm

@cdcrossy wrote:hi got a letter addressed to the legal occupier i sent a letter 2 yrs ago but cannot find it and with the online bbc now being in with tv licence has anyone got a updated letter to send back so i get another 2 yrs thanks in advance.

Simple case of re-informing them via another call or letter to them!

They sent you a new letter two years after you first cancelled it because their system goes into default after two years! I found this out when they told me that they will send a letter again in two years automatically to see if circumstances have changed!

For me, its not worth the argument, so I will send them a new denial of access when MY two years ar up.

Just call them again. Be nice. Tell them things have not changed. They will treat you like a child and explain why they can 'find out' if you are watching. Placate them. Tell them you want a conforation letter or keep the recording. Or both.

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Post by man on Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:40 pm

This will probably do for anyone:

Notice

From: Your address

To: All agents acting for and behalf of TV Licensing, Capita plc, BBC

Implied Right of Access to above property is now removed.

To agent,
i write to inform you that i need no TV License and that i have removed your Implied Right of Access to the above property. If i find that you, or any other agent or representative of the companies named above, have entered onto this property without my prior written permission, you will have committed the offence of Aggravated Trespass and i can take your statement under caution in accordance with Sections 68 and 69 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. In addition, i will charge £9,000 GBP for each act of Trespass.

Now that i have told you that i need no TV License, do not communicate with me in any way for 2 years otherwise this will be taken by me to be harassment under Section 2 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997. I will charge you £1,000 GBP for each communication to me from now on.

I strongly advise that you act now to stop agents or representatives of your company from entering onto the above property, as failure to do so may result in court action and prosecution against your company and the individuals involved. To avoid this, update your records to show that a TV Licence is not needed at the above address and inform your staff that they will be subject to court action and prosecution if they trespass onto the above property or communicate with me from now on.

Yours faithfully,


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Post by LionsShare on Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:43 pm

after my 2 yrs were up when I got the "to the occupier" through just wrote on the paper work inside "nothing has changed", resealed it, sent it back, couple of weeks later got another letter through "see you in 2 yrs".

hope this helps. NEVER give your name, NEVER admit to anything, if you get a door visit again NEVER give your name, or anyone else's, NEVER say "I am not getting because...", DO NOT ENGAGE with them, close the door firmly.

The 1st time I simply replied "NOT GETTING 1". No explanation or anything, did send a WOIRA though.


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Post by Jinxer on Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:59 pm

I still firmly believe that ignoring the tvl is the best way and I have over 35 years of experience doing just that, with over 30 of them from being in the same house. If you ever open the door to one of the door knockers just close it again, they will soon go away. Just don't talk to them.

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Post by Tom Bombadil on Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:27 pm

@Jinxer wrote:I still firmly believe that ignoring the tvl is the best way and I have over 35 years of experience doing just that, with over 30 of them from being in the same house. If you ever open the door to one of the door knockers just close it again, they will soon go away. Just don't talk to them.

Agreed. But in my case my kid would open it. Nimbscull Crying or Very sad

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Post by cdcrossy on Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:12 pm

Thanks guys for the help ill use the letter here and get it iff recorded

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Post by man on Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:39 pm

This is TV licence we're talking about. To prevent someone from TV license knocking on your door, you remove the implied right of access. If you also tell them it's harassment if they communicate with you, then they don't bother you at all for 2 years and then after 2 years they write to you, to see whether there is any change.
Why would anyone on here watch their TV programs anyway?

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Post by LionsShare on Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:59 am

Here are some words of wisdom which if thought through will calm ones self to the point of "NO WUCKIN' FORRIES":

NEVER FEAR having a TV without a license irrespective of use.

Peace to all!
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Post by Guest on Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:39 am

Hi guys

If a farmer went round the country leaving apples everywhere, he might hope anyone picking up an apple would pay him for it. But, sans agreement, he can't demand payment.

That's why it's so easy to not pay tv licence.

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Post by pitano1 on Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:19 pm

I only...ever watch...FREEVIEW...the news mostly.
Just for giggles and....it gives me the opportunity
to vent my spleen.
The British-Baby-Buggering-Corp NEWS.?
is highly entertaining.



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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:14 pm

@7tt7 wrote:
@man wrote:This will probably do for anyone:

Notice

From: Your address

To: All agents acting for and behalf of TV Licensing, Capita plc, BBC

Implied Right of Access to above property is now removed.

To agent,
i write to inform you that i need no TV License and that i have removed your Implied Right of Access to the above property. If i find that you, or any other agent or representative of the companies named above, have entered onto this property without my prior written permission, you will have committed the offence of Aggravated Trespass and i can take your statement under caution in accordance with Sections 68 and 69 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. In addition, i will charge £9,000 GBP for each act of Trespass.

Now that i have told you that i need no TV License, do not communicate with me in any way for 2 years otherwise this will be taken by me to be harassment under Section 2 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997. I will charge you £1,000 GBP for each communication to me from now on.

I strongly advise that you act now to stop agents or representatives of your company from entering onto the above property, as failure to do so may result in court action and prosecution against your company and the individuals involved. To avoid this, update your records to show that a TV Licence is not needed at the above address and inform your staff that they will be subject to court action and prosecution if they trespass onto the above property or communicate with me from now on.

Yours faithfully,


The Inhabitant

hi don't mean to be critical but i thought the advice was to not remove implied right of access as it is supposed to make it easier for them to get a court order to break in bill in tow. please explain and explain also if they do get court order would you still not let them in. a court order from where Nottingham bulk centre or magistrates ?. i am very very confused as only yesterday i was reading on the tv resistance site saying derogatory remarks about freemen on the land types talking bull. all help gratefully received. thanks in advance

I have seen people advise not to put up the Implied right of Access,
UNTIL, they have called and harrassed you more than once.
NEVER talk to them or Answer any of their Questions.
make a note of the Visit for reference later.
Or do what Many DO,
and have a Camera Handy and FILM them, and REMAIN SILENT:
That generally gets rid of them.
But you should STILL never talk to them.
Every one of their questions is LOADED with assumptions.
( ask again if anything is not clear )
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Post by Guest on Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:25 pm

Hi guys

7tt7 - you can rest assured that anyone who disses the 'freeman on the land types' are themselves frightened little slaves.

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Post by pitano1 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:03 am

hi.all
Regarding the r.o.i.r.o.a.

My property has had this on permanent display since 2012.
have watched t.v.l read it and slither away.

Made D.C.A`s aware of it....they soon get the picture..[wink]

REMEMBER.....it is YOUR RIGHT....to keep c...ts off of
your dominion.
LOSE...the FEAR.
regards.
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remember its a LAWFUL...notice.
and they don`t like it uppem..




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Post by Guest on Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:45 pm

Hi guys

7tt7 - i wouldn't put it past them! Truth is, this is about the easiest thing someone interested in flexing their new found knowledge in rights and commerce can do to gain confidence.

As an alternative to outright refusal, or indifference, why not dangle the carrot? ie when you move into a place write to the TV people and offer to pay if they can prove the money won't go to funding terrorist acts like 9/11. Easy!


i'm pretty sure you'll never hear from them again thanks to the guy who took that successfully through the courts.

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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:51 am

Hi 7tt7

YT - Historic court case win over TV licensing.

Guy's name is Tony Rooke.

Cheers!

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Post by LionsShare on Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:33 am

7tt7 - here is what I think you seek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHQPaAkIl0I

Tony Rooke at the Magistrates' Court - BBC TV license

at around 1:24 in he says "what should be done is to get people..."
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Post by Jinxer on Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:55 am

I don't think he won, they didn't fine him or convict him but he paid costs of £200 and promised to get a tv licence. How is that a win. Dave Allen got done for obstruction or something like that and think he was fined £300. Both these cases prove ignoring them and not getting into any sort of dialogue with them at all is the best way. I don't have a telly so I suppose it's easy for me to say ignore but they have never tried to enter my house in 30 years.

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Post by jaysinc111 on Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:14 pm

The best way in my experience to rid yourself of these parasites is to have communication every 2 years. Despite my having sent all the notices of implied access being withdrawn the only effective way is to speak to them when they call and have a gentle shat - I have been doing this for the last 6 years and they have put me down on their records as someone that doesn't have access to TV channels and they seem ok with this. To this date, I have not had a visit from Capita since my last visit and everyone seems happy.

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