Search
 
 

Display results as :
 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Debt purchaser using DCA to initiate court proceedings but purchaser without permissions is on court papers
by handle Today at 2:05 pm

» in house enforcement agents
by Sharpysparky Today at 2:00 pm

» ...Is this proof privatisation does not work?
by ceylon Today at 12:34 pm

» Reality chat with peter howard and company
by Society of the Spectacle Yesterday at 7:34 pm

» NIP - speeding with photo evidence
by daveiron Yesterday at 5:12 pm

» Latest from CrimeBodge
by Tom Bombadil Yesterday at 4:45 pm

» UK Column
by ceylon Yesterday at 4:06 pm

» ...Brexit are you taking the piss?
by ceylon Yesterday at 2:12 pm

» The End of London. Prepare Yourself.
by ceylon Yesterday at 10:56 am

» CCJ Delivered. I was unaware as i dont live at the address
by MEATBALL Yesterday at 10:31 am

» Motorists could face £100 fine for driving too close to cyclists
by Ausk Yesterday at 9:55 am

» Treason May or Peter of England
by assassin Yesterday at 1:31 am

» new PPI ruling
by handle Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:30 pm

» Ozone Therapy
by Kestrel Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:30 pm

» ...Who wants to travel 10 years back in time?
by ceylon Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:34 pm

» 5G & Smart Meters
by daveiron Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:59 am

» Drydens Fairfax
by Swan Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:38 am

» This just sums so much up....
by Kestrel Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:15 am

» sol excalibre with cookiemonster
by Society of the Spectacle Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:17 pm

» 24 Storey Tower on Fire in Kensington - dies
by Awoken2 Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:52 pm

» Watch This!
by LionsShare Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:09 pm

» ...Would a high vis vest put you off sex?
by ceylon Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:16 pm

» Hello Everyone,
by freeland Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:08 pm

» ...Are there any more signs of a coming financial crash?
by ceylon Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:31 pm

» ...Does the UN plan to destroy Europe?
by Lopsum Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:23 am

» Statute Barred after set aside
by daveiron Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:32 am

» My personal favourite
by chong Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:27 pm

» Let's Have Some Tunes thread.
by chong Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:21 pm

» ...Are the police here to protect you or rape your kids?
by ceylon Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:07 pm

» Bulk Data Collection By NSA and GCHQ Violated Human Rights Charter, European Court Rules
by ceylon Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:47 am

» Latest Rich Planet vids Richard Hall
by daveiron Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:05 pm

» ...BREXIT is there any evidence we are going to leave?
by ceylon Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:33 pm

» Cabot / Restons Claim
by waylander62 Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:55 am

» 3 letter system for DCAs (not debt purchasers) needed?
by daveiron Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:20 am

» National non-compliance day
by chong Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:09 am

» Data Protection Act 1998
by LionsShare Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:18 pm

» UK KIDS ...WANT DEAD BABY CELLS UP YOUR NOSE? NHS ANNUAL FLU NASAL SPRAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdGXQ61LCgE&feature=em-uploademail
by ceylon Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:45 pm

» …Does commerce control the government?
by ceylon Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:31 pm

» Intrum Finance letter advice please.
by Ithesoul Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:54 pm

» Cabot- is there a realistic chance to fight them?
by annap Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:58 pm

» justinian deception
by Ausk Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:29 am

» GERMAN COPS JOIN THE PEOPLES PROTESTS
by Society of the Spectacle Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:11 pm

» Justinian Deception Channel ( Romley Stewart)
by Society of the Spectacle Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:06 pm

» ...Were we wrong about brexit? Don't think so do you?
by ceylon Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:01 pm

» Self Defence Against Police
by assassin Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:50 pm

» West Yorkshire Police Thugs
by daveiron Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:01 am

» EU Enters “Final Stage” of Crafting Bill Forcing Big Tech Censorship
by handle Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:54 pm

Moon phases


F**king System does my head in

Go down

F**king System does my head in

Post by Phillpots on Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:03 pm

My mum passed away a few months back and I am now taking care of my fathers affairs. The legal process in dealing with my mums 'deregister' from the legal system has been an eye opener to say the least (I will tell more on that at a later date - a huge learning curve for me). I have now come across my mum and dad's 30's birth and marraige certificates and I see no ALL CAPS with regards to surnames. In fact my mum's has a one penny stamp on bottom right signed through by the registrar. So food for thought thier.

I have also come across deeds for the property purchase (where my mum and dad had bought their house) and a search of land ownwership dating back to the 40's on A3 size paper (ABSTRACT OF THE TITLE). I'm going through it trying to get my head round it. One thing that first caught my eye was the farm and farmland was sold and on the search for land ownership which shows the company (contractor) who bought from the farmer is an incorporated limited business which was given a 'Certificate of Incorporation on change of name had by special resolution and with approval of the secretary of state.' BY OFFICIAL CERTE OF SEARCH.

Then a building contractor became the mortgagor with a certain bank Barclays and I know for a fact that this mortgagor became bankrupt 3 times on land purchases in my area.

I have conveyance papers that were seal (the common seal of) and signed and sealed by said mortgagor to the new plot owners who also took out mortgages for their plots. This is on bonded crown paper. Pages long and in my opinion very interesting.

The certificate of incorporation was given in 1979 and sold on to said private contractor roughly 2 years later.

I need to get my head round this so TBC

In the meantime if any thoughts crop up please post. It may just keep me going.

Phillpots
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 292
Join date : 2017-06-07

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Tom Bombadil on Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:07 pm

I purchased land in CASH and registered it in our name.

I have a tight and close eye on to whom it remains before, in 20 years, I gift it for a quid to my offspring.!

Dont trust the solicitors EVER!
avatar
Tom Bombadil
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 192
Join date : 2017-07-26
Location : London and Wales

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Phillpots on Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:28 pm

Let me get this straight, the land you are talking about is registered. So who did you register your land to?

Phillpots
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 292
Join date : 2017-06-07

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Tom Bombadil on Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:31 pm

Land reg.

I understand that there are two land reg. We did what was required of us by the conditions of sale.

It currently IS in our name.
avatar
Tom Bombadil
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 192
Join date : 2017-07-26
Location : London and Wales

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Phillpots on Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:34 pm

Cheers thanks

Phillpots
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 292
Join date : 2017-06-07

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Tom Bombadil on Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:40 pm

From what I read, at the time of purchase, the new owners names are not placed in the reg. Its a bank or other name. So, if this is not changed at a later time, the same details remain.

I am to get a deed made up too. And as long as my details remain in upper or lower case, I can fight that. Mostly because I will be there in er...person to make the change to my sons name! Its after death that problems arise because those w@nkers are NOT to be trusted! And I know their home address...always a good thing! ☺️
avatar
Tom Bombadil
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 192
Join date : 2017-07-26
Location : London and Wales

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Guest on Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:25 am

Hi guys

The penny stamp on your mum's BC is interesting Phillpots. i'm sure someone here could tell us what that implies.....?

Oh, and sorry for your loss....

Cheers!

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Tom Bombadil on Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:21 am

Off subject....i also have a paper of a loan for a relative of old that has stamps on it. Dunno how to post an image though.
avatar
Tom Bombadil
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 192
Join date : 2017-07-26
Location : London and Wales

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Lansdowne on Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:08 pm

@Tom Bombadil wrote:Off subject....i also have a paper of a loan for a relative of old that has stamps on it.  Dunno how to post an image though.

Stamp duty on agreements was abolished some time in the 1960s I think. Before then an agreement couldn't be enforced unless it was stamped. Of course we still have stamp duty on property conveyances and large stocks and shares transactions, but apart from that I think it's dead.

Lansdowne
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 10
Join date : 2017-07-17

Back to top Go down

what no deed

Post by toolapcblack on Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:30 pm

a question along the same lines: so when you finish paying your mortgage off does one ever receive the deed from the land registry/solicitors in your name?
As I've a friend who finished paying theirs but all that has happened is that their payments have just stopped, I feel they should get some ownership docs at least.

toolapcblack
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 153
Join date : 2017-05-29

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Tiggy on Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:48 pm

@toolapcblack wrote:a question along the same lines: so when you finish paying your mortgage off does one ever receive the deed from the land registry/solicitors in your name?
As I've a friend who finished paying theirs but all that has happened is that their payments have just stopped, I feel they should get some ownership docs at least.
They would need to check with the Land Registry that the charge against the property has been removed, you can do it yourself on line, costs £3.

From recollection the land registry don't hold the deeds they simply record the property ownership and any charges against it.

Tiggy
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 640
Join date : 2017-08-11

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Jinxer on Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:19 pm

Deeds are just historical documents these days and have no bearing on whether you own the land or not. You do get them from the bank or whoever held the mortgage, but I had to request mine from them. The land Registry sent me a certificate (like a log book really that you get with a car).

Jinxer
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 436
Join date : 2017-06-03

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Phillpots on Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:10 pm

Thanks everyone good info and thanks iamani. I think I might start a new thread on the deregistring process and the will process that went with it. Better do it soon as its been 3 months now and my memory is not as good as it used to be.

I'm gonna keep looking into this land registry. I'm going to try and find out if these old farms were registered as well and at what point did the land registry start. Perhaps it even goes back to monasteries and the sale of land back in the old days. Anyway early days with my study of this subject but its a subject I like to get my teeth into because of my story above and how it effected me when my mum passed away and how when my dad goes I'm left holding a property for probate. Huge learning curve with this f**king system for sure. Very Happy

Phillpots
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 292
Join date : 2017-06-07

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Jinxer on Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:56 pm

When I got the deeds to my house, included with them was the deeds to 50 odd acres of land a few miles away from where I live. The Council built a housing estate on it in 1972, I wish the holder of the deeds was still the real owner, I would be quids now if they were. I think the Council land grabbed it under adverse possession rules but not to sure.

Jinxer
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 436
Join date : 2017-06-03

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Society of the Spectacle on Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:17 pm

It would be a good Idea to Look into this quick, the land registry office has been sold off, and I remember a few cases where banks were having trouble because they couldnt Monkey with the record.
NOW , they probably will be able too.
VERY much worth looking into for yourself and possible others.
avatar
Society of the Spectacle
Admin
Admin

Posts : 754
Join date : 2017-01-15
Location : Castor

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Society of the Spectacle on Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:26 pm

@Tiggy wrote:
@toolapcblack wrote:a question along the same lines: so when you finish paying your mortgage off does one ever receive the deed from the land registry/solicitors in your name?
As I've a friend who finished paying theirs but all that has happened is that their payments have just stopped, I feel they should get some ownership docs at least.
They would need to check with the Land Registry that the charge against the property has been removed, you can do it yourself on line, costs £3.

From recollection the land registry don't hold the deeds they simply record the property ownership and any charges against it.

I would ADD to Make it a PRIORITY to check.
They will thank you later.
avatar
Society of the Spectacle
Admin
Admin

Posts : 754
Join date : 2017-01-15
Location : Castor

Back to top Go down

Re: F**king System does my head in

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum