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Fined because her dogs lead was too long.

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Post by midnight Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:23 pm

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bootle-nan-fined-walking-dog-15634556?fbclid=IwAR0TZflWdV-AQtopZik7dJEemJdnzDoFUAkXd4IH8TD0ge-LBRT_88cIYl8

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Post by Society of the Spectacle Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:01 pm

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The Fine said Council but the article said a private Firm !!!
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Post by midnight Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:31 pm

Bootle nan fined for walking her dog because its lead was TOO LONG

80-year-old Maureen "cried all night" after being threatened with a criminal record

A Bootle nan was fined for walking her dog near her house because enforcement officers "told her the lead was too long".
Maureen Sanders, 80, was walking her rescue dog Soren around Bootle Cemetery on Friday morning - but when she went to leave she was stopped by two officers from enforcement firm NSL.
The two women told Maureen her dog lead was "too long" and needed to be less than two metres if she wanted to use it in the area.
Maureen said that instead of issuing the nan-of-four with a warning or explaining the rules to her, the officers slapped her with a £50 fine for breaking the by-law.
Speaking to the ECHO, Maureen said: "Soren is from Romania and I've had him about three years. He's a friendly dog but he can get quite frightened because he had a bad time in Romania.
"I had no idea it was a rule. My daughters rang the One Stop Shop when I had to pay the fine and the staff in there said they had never heard of it."
Maureen's daughters have offered to help her pay the £50 fine so the money doesn't come out of her hard-earned pension.
However, Maureen said she is refusing to pay the fine on principle.
She said: "What upset me was if you don't have it paid up in a fortnight they said you would be fined £2,500 and I would have a criminal record.
"I cried all night because I was so, so upset."
Maureen rescued her beloved Soren from a Romanian fighting pit three years ago, where he was being used for dog fights.
While the rescue dog is friendly and well-behaved, Maureen said he can get quite frightened of other dogs, which is why she has to keep him on a lead at all times.
She said: "I don't have a computer or anything - I wouldn't know the by-laws or anything. I've always been very respectful in the cemetery. I always have the dog on a lead and a lot of people don't do that!"
Maureen's daughter Maggie Eaton said she found her mum in "floods of tears" after being handed the fine on her morning dog walk.
She said her mum is waiting for a hip replacement and needs to use a longer lead to walk Soren because she has difficulty walking.
Maggie also said her mum is a responsible dog owner who "always carries poo bags and cleans up after her dog without fail."
She said: "Mum does not have that sort of money to pay for walking her dog under control on a lead as she has done every day for years.
"My sister and I offered to pay but mum is adamant that as she was not doing anything wrong by walking her dog on a lead in the rear part of the cemetery away from the graves, early in the morning in the only green space close to her flat.
"She is not going to pay."

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Post by assassin Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:12 pm

I would go back to the park, camera in hand, and photograph ALL the signs, if none state any length of lead then appeal it and get it overturned, then hit NSL with a claim for fraud and with compensation.
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Post by MikeThomas Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:20 am

If I remember rightly, this was one of the EU laws passed in 2011. And I,m sure the length of a dog lead cannot exceed 1.5 metres.
They constantly do this ! They pass a stupid 'Act' and keep it on a 'low burner' until they need to generate a bit of cash, then BANG! All of a sudden the number of people being done for long dog leads explodes, everyone complains and the Council stands up and says its an established law that's been on the books for years and there is no excuse.

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Post by Ausk Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:02 am

What section of what by law is the council or city (whatever it is) relying on for their authority to lay this charge?

What does the council rely on for its proof of claim that the lead was too long?

Did the policy officer measure the length of the lead with a tape measure or did they make a guesstimate of the length.

If the officer measured the length of the lead where is the calibration records showing when and to what standard the tape measure had been last calibrated against?

Officer; can you prove with substantiating evidence the tape measure you used was within specification on the day you used it?

If this is a criminal offense, reasonable doubt is all you need to cast (technically.)

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