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CAREY V HSBC

Post by handle on Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:55 pm

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Re: Debt purchaser using DCA to initiate court proceedings but purchaser without permissions is on court papers

Post by handle on Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:00 pm

The problem I have with Carey is that the claimant gives me any old reconstituted agreement but I have had many cards with the same lender over the years.


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Re: Debt purchaser using DCA to initiate court proceedings but purchaser without permissions is on court papers

Post by handle on Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:20 pm

TIGGY...Beat that
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Post by daveiron on Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:06 pm

Thanks for that handle, I Appreciate it.
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Re: Debt purchaser using DCA to initiate court proceedings but purchaser without permissions is on court papers

Post by Kestrel on Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:21 pm

I wonder if this any bearing to this, that of unregulated creditor etc taking court action & that of been the claimant:
https://www.handbook.fca.org.uk/handbook/CONC/7/11.html?date=2018-01-03
CONC 7.11.5
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/29/section/17/2014-04-01


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Re: Debt purchaser using DCA to initiate court proceedings but purchaser without permissions is on court papers

Post by Kestrel on Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:15 pm

It is a criminal offence to operate without a licence, i.e. unregulated, from what I take from the links below, I would take it that any unregulated creditor that operates without a licence has no legal standing in court as they are committing a criminal offence. In so far they cannot be the 'claimant'.

https://www.stepchange.org/debt-info/your-rights/consumer-credit-act.aspx
https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/how-apply-consumer-credit-licence

Also appears that Administration of Justice Act 1970 applies

The Administration of Justice Act 1970
Section 40[2] includes a number of provisions forbidding creditors such as debt collection agencies from harassing debtors, including:
Excessive demands for payment
Falsely claiming that criminal proceedings will follow after failing to pay a debt
Falsely pretending to be officially authorised to collect payment
Producing false documents claiming to have some official status that they do not have

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1970/31/section/40


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Re: Debt purchaser using DCA to initiate court proceedings but purchaser without permissions is on court papers

Post by Kestrel on Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:17 pm

Another link here appears to confirm that unauthorised creditors cannot chase debt:
Re: Court Claim - Cabot Financial (UK) LTD / Capital One - 15-12-2017






Originally posted by Diana M View Post

Cabot Financial (UK) Ltd are unlicensed.

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Which means its an offence to under take debt collecting activity contrary to the Financial Services and MArkets Act 2000 and technically they arent unlicensed they are unauthorised.

https://legalbeagles.info/forums/forum/legal-forums/court-claims-and-issues/received-a-court-claim/102081-court-claim-cabot-financial-uk-ltd-capital-one-15-12-2017

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It is a point that can be used as part of a defence, and one that while quite complex in terms of the relevant provisions on the law can be quite easily summarised, indeed i have drafted the relevant pleadings and posted them on the forum so ill take a look around and see if i can find

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