Do the 3 letters work??

Do the 3 letters work?

The simple answer is yes!

Always follow the procedure of the 3 letters and the estoppel. And if you have to bill them, send them a bill. After the 3 letters, send the estoppel 30 days later.


Estoppel Notice
NON-NEGOTIABLE
John of the family: Doe Authorized Representative for
Doe and all derivatives thereof
c/o
Northampton
United Kingdom


[COLLECTION CONTACT] Collections Department
[THEIR ADDRESS]
[THEIR ADDRESS]
[THEIR ADDRESS]
[THEIR POSTCODE]
25th November 2016
Notice of Irrevocable Estoppel by Acquiescence

Notice to Agent is Notice to Principal. Notice to Principal is Notice to Agent
Re: Reference Number: [ACCOUNT NUMBER]
Dear Interloper
With reference to the letter dated [LAST LETTER DATE] delivered by recorded mail. In this letter I asked you to provide the following reasonably requested specific items:
1. Proof of Claim that the alleged liability has been created in the form of an original contract.
2. Proof of Claim that the alleged liability exists in the form of a verified true bill signed by your client and charged to JOHN DOE pursuant to the The Uniform Commercial Code
3. Proof of Claim that [THEIR COMPANY NAME] has the legal right and lawful authority to attempt to enforce collection of the alleged liability in the form of Proof of Agency.
I hereby serve Notice that failure to provide Proof of Claim by [THEIR COMPANY NAME], has created a permanent and irrevocable estoppel by acquiescence, forevermore barring [THEIR COMPANY NAME] from bringing any and all claims, legal actions, orders, demands, lawsuits, costs, levies, penalties, damages, interests, liens and expenses whatsoever, against JOHN DOE.

It is important that you acknowledge and understand that this is not a letter but a legal notice, which is a different specie of correspondence all together. I hereby declare that the law of agent and principal shall apply and that service upon one is service upon another.
Furthermore, your failure to provide Proof of Claim in the form of the above reasonably requested specific items comprises the tacit procuration of [THEIR COMPANY NAME]’s agreement to the following terms and conditions.

1. That the debt did not exist in the first place;
OR
2. It has already been paid in full;
AND
3. That any damages I suffer, you will be held culpable;
4. That any negative remarks made to a credit reference agency will be removed;
5. You will no longer pursue this matter any further.
6. You have not proven any debt, if you sell the alleged liability, and/or appoint an agent to act on its/your behalf on this matter you will have broken our agreement and you agree to pay the following fee schedule
Fee Schedule
Any further invalid claims against JOHN DOE and/or attempting to contact the Authorized Representative by mail, mobile phone and/or telephone will constitute the agreement of [THEIR COMPANY NAME] to the following Fee Schedule:
1. $1000.00 (ONE THOUSAND US DOLLARS ) per invalid claim in writing, nunc pro tunc,
2. $1000.00 (ONE THOUSAND US DOLLARS ) per letter and/or notice sent by recorded mail, nunc pro tunc,
3. $1000.00 (ONE THOUSAND US DOLLARS ) per hour or portion thereof, of the Authorized Representative,
4. Representative’s time, nunc pro tunc,
5. $1000.00 (ONE THOUSAND US DOLLARS ) per attempt to contact by telephone and/or mobile phone
6. $1,000,000 (ONE MILLION US DOLLARS ) per Authorized or infringement.
All fees are payable in Twenty One (21) days of date of invoice is received, as evidenced by recorded delivery tracking number.
Without malice or mischief, in sincerity and honor.
Yours sincerely
By:

By: Sovereign John of the family: Doe
Authorized Agent and Representative for JOHN DOE

No assured value, No liability. Errors & Omissions Excepted. All Rights Reserved.
WITHOUT RECOURSE – NON-ASSUMPSIT
Calls maybe recorded

Sometimes with the 3 letters they may pass back the debt to the original creditor, or they may pass it to another debt collector.

Ceylon added teeth with the 3 letters, by introducing billing, which worked for me. I think it was Daveiron who adds more to his letters to give more teeth, but remember he is a very experienced member. Do not change the meaning of the letters.

In the 3 letters it says you are willing to pay if they prove they legally own the debt. You can also use these letters in court, if you had to go.

I added more teeth to my letters, by stating I would vigorously defend any claims for solicitors fees and court fees if went to court, by not sending the information.

If you are lucky, you will get some letters with £0.00 balance. You will see in one photo a letter they sent me, after the 3 letters, estoppel and bill, you see £0.00 balance. Sometimes you may just get a letter, we are looking for the paperwork, end of story.

Found an error, we don't live in the United Kingdom, unless we live in a corporation.

Hi bimmer
The uk is one big corporation

Also, how can we bill someone when there's no money? (Bill of Exchange Act)

We should invoice.

petesomething wrote: Hi bimmer
The uk is one big corporation

Replace with England etc, no?

Hi pete,

Yes i do add a couple of extra points.they are very simple ,for example we all know that the agreements are sold or securitised in some way, so I ask the question "Has the account been sold or traded in any way ?"

I also add at the end of any official letter " I require all correspondence to be signed by a named individual who takes liability for its contents" .

This then puts liability on the individual should they give an answer which is a lie & not hide behind the corporation.
How many are prepared to chance it ?
I guess its just my nature to try and adapt & maybe find something that is more effective .

I believe we need to keep moving ahead as by now they have seen so many of the three letters being used & there must be many who having sent the letters are then at a loss as to what to do if the alleged creditors appear not to have given up at that point.
My aim is to find the correct questions so they are afraid to pursue.

yes dave
bimmer remember we use writing to express ones wishes and intentions, you cant try and interpret it into legalese, your not a bar member. The letter uses English and other established languages to express a defined will as clearly as possible .
It doesnt really matter if you put uk or england if they are confused what is meant they need you to clarify what YOU mean. Dont forget what you are . They will never write back and say well your not in the uk it doesnt exist, they will assume you mean the landmass known generally as uk/britain/england  or they are insane.In fact you could rewrite the 3 letters in slang/accented spelling to express regional dialect , or in 3 word sentences as long as it makes sense. They never reply and say "what do you mean by this we dont understand please clarify your position" they know what it means. Give me info i need that you hold so i can make the right decision/action to honor any true claim , false claims will be disputed on receipt of the evidence.
if you can stipulate this everything else is semantics.
 The template letters (ready made version to save time and for people who arent confident enough to write their own version.)
 tem-plate
2. anything that determines or serves as a pattern; a model: You can use my notes as a template for employee evaluations.
its not this way or no way.

Thanks, but why do we omit the postcode?
Because it defines us as part of the corporation / agent of the Crown.

So why leave UK Corp. Makes no sense IMO.

[quote="Lopsum"]

3 letters proccess wrote:All fees are payable in Twenty One (21) days of date of invoice is received

Then it says, send a Bill.

Hi dave 100% agree with you

i have no one chasing me for debt any more , but i will keep your extra points they are very good,
and i also believe we should keep moving forward,

Thanks pete.

Have the 3 letters worked for people with secured debt or with a property?

Not for mortgages

From what I picked up from the old site, the basic strategy for dealing with debt collectors can be summed as either ignore letters from ebt collectors unitl they threathen legal action or, use the three letters.

For great majority of cases the three letters and the estople work for those who choose go that route.

Hi Ausk

if you ignore letters ,then you get a letter( Threaten legal action ), it maybe to late to use the three letters ,
on this site we use the three letters estoppel and the bill and we have a new letter to send with the bill,
we want to stop them before any legal action is taken ,

petesomething wrote:Hi Ausk

if you ignore letters ,then you get a letter( Threaten legal action ), it maybe to late to use the three letters ,
on this site we use the three letters estoppel and the bill and we have a new letter to send with the bill,
we want to stop them before any legal action is taken ,

Agreed. The advice on the old site to ignore was certainly not good advice if you ask me. You're better fighting back right from the start

worked for me haven't heard anything for over a year from DCAs about HSBC (filthy drug money launderers) 5k loan and 3k credit card