Wheelie bin chips

by leipzigconnection Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:23 am

Probably old news, I've recently noticed the wheelie bins are rfid chipped.
The chips are placed in a circular slot on the underside of the front on the bin below the lid.
Older bin's chips are quite roughly placed with a plastic disk with a logo covering it. The logo says something like: "Tomorrows technology, in use today."
Newer bin's chips are now surrounded by resin and encapsulated in a plastic threaded disk that is screwed in position making it harder to get out and less conspicuous.
It looks like they are already using them because after one chip was removed temporarily recently to see what happened, the refuse driver drove straight passed the full bin, and had to be called back.
Bins with chips are weighed when emptied, but why?
For charges implemented later?
Will people really start paying for the amount of rubbish they have, while also paying council tax?
I also wonder if the chips could be used for monitoring from a base further afield because in one instance, a neighbour's brown bin was left out after the proposed collection date because the council failed to turn up. The very next day someone from the council was on the doorstep asking why the bin was left out. This was in a rural area too, not on an estate.

by **LionsShare** Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:59 am

Hi,

Can't really answer the questions you pose as there does not seem to be enough info out there certainly from the council where I live. Will say this though, you could FOI your council & ask who "owns" the bin(s) at your property? if its you then get a drill &... problem solved (possibly)?

Perhaps too simple an approach - but effective!

by leipzigconnection Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:00 pm

They're council owned.

by honeyaisle Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:37 am

In these parts the bins do not have these devices. Got any pictures?
The bins are not owned by the local council but belong to their contract company.

by **assassin** Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:53 pm

leipzigconnection wrote:They're council owned.

Councils own nothing, they are merely agents of the people and as agents of the people they are there to do the bidding of the people, therefore the people are paying the council for a service and if the council sub contract it, it is still being paid for by the people.

by Little D Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:16 pm

People in some areas of the UK are already paying extra for the taking of green bins on top of their council tax.

Here is a vid from last year, not where I live but at about 1:20 in it says "Bins without RFID tag will be removed or no longer able to be emptied".

Wheelie bin stocktake :

by leipzigconnection Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:50 pm

Yes assassin i agree. It's not possible for anyone to 'own' anything is it? What i mean though is the bins have a council logo. They deliver them and act as if they own them, and they say they are willing to take them away whenever one is not wanted.

by honeyaisle Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:57 pm

Aha I see said the blind lady. At least one lot of bins have these devices fitted.
Must be legit it's in the media.

http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/11487644.Bins_wheelie_aren___t_spies__Residents_assured____chips_have_no_sinister_intent___/#

by handle Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:51 pm

Its easy, just swap your bins with someone down the road.

by Jinxer Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:49 pm

I'm old enough to remember when ANPR cameras were first used, the AA and RAC pretended to be against them and protested to the powers that be that they would be an unfair intrusion on the public and how they could be used to basically track where people had traveled in their cars and be used to track people who didn't have tax and stuff. They said at the time and gave assurances that ANPR would only be used to trace stolen cars which was a big problem in those days. Now all they use them for is to persecute people with, still I suppose ANPR isn't as bad as having a smart phone.
I can also remember a good few years ago talk about these RFID chips being put in wheelie bins and to be able to weigh the bins and charge the bin owner by the weight of the rubbish collected, they seem to be starting that process now.

by leipzigconnection Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:18 am

"Its easy, just swap your bins with someone down the road."

Yeah that's a great idea. Exactly the same chips are used in door entrance key fobs now for entry to multi-storey blocks of flats, so if people swapped with a neighbour it would confuse everything.

by leipzigconnection Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:20 am

by honeyaisle Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:52 am

assassin wrote:
leipzigconnection wrote:They're council owned.

Councils own nothing, they are merely agents of the people and as agents of the people they are there to do the bidding of the people, therefore the people are paying the council for a service and if the council sub contract it, it is still being paid for by the people.

Councils are Government.

by **assassin** Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:54 am

handle wrote:Its easy, just swap your bins with someone down the road.

Here is the problem in a nut shell, councils are there to work for the people as their elected representatives, and for many years many councils have not represented the people they are there to represent, and nobody has taken them to task over it.

by **assassin** Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:14 am

actinglikeabanker wrote:People in some areas of the UK are already paying extra for the taking of green bins on top of their council tax.

Here is a vid from last year, not where I live but at about 1:20 in it says "Bins without RFID tag will be removed or no longer able to be emptied".

Wheelie bin stocktake :

Here is the scam ALAB, the council charge you for a service and look for other ways of double dipping, you pay for the service and never receive it, or you pay for a service and receive it; either way the council you have paid for the service look to charge you more for providing less.

They tried this in Derby with brown bins (gardening waste) and I composed a letter for a friend living there; suddenly it went mad and the majority opposing the scheme (about 90%) received copies of the letter which included a quote directly from the council claiming they owned the bins, and a charge from each household for storing council property, with so many lawful notices the council suddenly had a change of policy.

by **daveiron** Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:54 am

I had 3 wheelie bins + 2 plastic containers.
About 3 years ago, twice my bins were not emptied due to " the wrong type of plastic & the wrong coloured paper"

I informed the council that if they required me to wash ,sort & segregate my waste .The charge for my services would be .(coincidentally the same amount as my CT).As they did not respond I informed them that they had 2 weeks to remove their recycling bins or they would be deemed as abandoned.
I find them very useful for composting,water butts & for testing outboard engines.

by **assassin** Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:43 pm

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