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Re: 24 Storey Tower on Fire in Kensington - dies

Post by Lopsum on Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:50 am

there would be alot more woken if it wasnt for the BS so often tagged in with the truth.
the people that need to wake up are the ones still believing the BBC and government etc
ps i cannot personally verify or debunk any of the info in that particular article but it offers no proof it was a "hoax" it does show evidence of crisis actors being used .
The other article about pyrotechnics also offers no proof that it is the case ,mere speculation based on stabilized footage of the fire burning what we know is the cladding/insulation layer .Yet reported as fact !
The whole site seems dubious despite its zionist related articles , tending toward paranoia and "hoaxing" without sufficient proof , with a mix of pro muslim anti zionist/jewish stuff ,debunked theorys on 911,Fukushima fear porn, and all staged falseflags are "hoaxes" no one died no one was injured .
This says enough to me to be wary .
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Post by Awoken2 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:53 am

Lopsum,

I agree that the website only looks at each incident from the same Zionist/Hoax angle and draws the same conclusion each time but considering the way the media constantly spews out this vile propaganda then I can see why the information is presented as it is.

If the media are now resorting to such ludicrous tactics to sway public opinion then any opposing view should be put forward using the same tactics, it's like fighting fire with fire. If the press can use bullsh*t to sell a story then anyone who tries to disprove that story can use their own bullsh*t.

If the website does nothing more than plant a seed of doubt into somebody's mind about the lies that they are constantly fed by the press then it has to be a good thing in my view.

Now again I may be wrong here but I find a very uncanny resemblance between the woman in the yellow jumper helping Mahad Eghal and Charlotte Campbell ( The media touted crisis actor) used as the mother of a Manchester bombing victim.


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Post by Awoken2 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:56 am

Same woman? Could be sisters!
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Post by Lopsum on Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:44 pm

dont you see how it works? This is why it is constructed as it is.
Idiots take it as read, idiots repeat the BS . MSM & govenment then point at the stupid repeaters and say look stupid people believing bs and tie it in with anti establishment memes and this will be on the MSM so the other idiots who need to wake up will see and believe that anyone saying anti establishment things is just one of those stupid people the MSM warned about.
In fact they are the terrorists the government are talking about spreading anti government, pro muslim , non violent extremists, and oh yes look at that site again , look in the angelic/divine section its all about how the koran is ok really.
Lets count it off the government check list for extremism
conspiracy stuff check
anti zionist (just to muddy the waters and attach zionist blame to BS, we dont want the sleepers thinking that the zionists are really to blame so lets make them look stupid) Check
pro muslim/koran stuff check! this way we can loosely label all conspiracy/anti establishment thinkers as muslim sympathizers and jew haters and invent further thought crimes to have these thinkers taken out.
Also provides distraction and the puff of smoke that the guilty dissapear behind, because nobody is saying the right stuff en mass , its a cacophony of co-opted shite .
Think on . Its a terrible tactic . Truth is what is needed not more bullshit . Im disappointed to read your comment .
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:54 pm

A Good example of Cognitive Dissonance was the Glasgow Refuse Truck ,
Crashing and killing someone.

100% Happened.
and yet the BBC sent a crisis actor all the way to scotland to Play the part of a grieving Relative.

Stop and think what effect that will have on the different
Demographics.


If you cant play chess , and hold 5 moves in your head,
then be very careful with this stuff.
There are no easy or Definitive answers.
its a Long Game we are palying.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:58 pm

@Awoken2 wrote:Same woman? Could be sisters!

I hear what your saying Awoken,
But in my opinion,
the closest we came to a success,
was asking the MSM why they were lying about JUST 1 Part of their narrative.
Treating it like it may have been a genuine mistake.
OLU may have been duping them ??

Remember "YOU ARE NOT A Conspiracy theorist,
YOU ARE Outraged of Tunbridge wells .

Take the SINGLE Provable facts and ask questions 1 at a time.

( yep they use the same crisis actors over and over )
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Post by Lopsum on Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:42 pm

exactly sots, it makes it much harder for them to fob you off and more obvious when they do. Thats the real wake up stuff right there.
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Post by Awoken2 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:26 pm

Lopsum I wasn't endorsing the website which I linked I was simply pointing out to Iamani that they had the same belief as he, that nobody died in the fire.

I was able to deduce that the website appeared to have been created by a Muslim due to the poor grammar and use of English and religious link. This does not mean that I stand behind everything that is stated on the site.

The pictures I copied were  posted to make a point about the crisis actors used and nothing more. I was not making any type of religious statement or trying to push somebody else's belief system.

There is good and bad information on most websites, even this one, so it's up to the individual to be objective. If somebody is foolish enough to change their belief system after viewing the subject matter from one single website then the term idiot would be correct.

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Post by Awoken2 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:37 pm

@Society of the Spectacle wrote:
@Awoken2 wrote:Same woman? Could be sisters!

I hear what your saying Awoken,
But in my opinion,
the closest we came to a success,
was asking the MSM why they were lying about JUST 1 Part of their narrative.
Treating it like it may have been a genuine mistake.
OLU may have been duping them ??

Remember "YOU ARE NOT A Conspiracy theorist,
YOU ARE Outraged of Tunbridge wells .

Take the SINGLE Provable facts and ask questions 1 at a time.

( yep they use the same crisis actors over and over )

I did try that angle SOTS, I made a single, concise and valid complaint to IPSO regarding one story and you have seen the results for yourself in this thread.

A single voice will never be enough to even start to expose the lies and deceit that is peddled by our media so all I can do is keep trying to open people's eyes as to what is going on, as thankless a task as it is but I do take your comments on board.
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Post by Guest on Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:59 pm

Hi all

Anyone else spot the irony on this page of the thread? No? Just me then.....

Awoken2 - chin up old chap, we're all single voices here!

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Post by Lopsum on Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:10 am

ok awoken didnot get the context, then the dissection was for iamani's sake.

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Post by handle on Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:51 pm

I have just been told that there was a documentary last month on the findings on pat and olu (info which started here on this forum).
I think it was the Beeb ( BBC) and also a channel 4 chap was interviewed whether he saw a girl being caught from mid air to which he replied he did not actually see it happen

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Post by Awoken2 on Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:02 pm

I would be very interested in seeing that, any clues on links or what I can search for on i-player?
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Post by handle on Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:12 pm

The only thing i found was this week newsnight 23/10/17 but my source is definite that it was last month . He would have known if the one he was referring was only a couple of days ago.

Still looking. The problem with iplayer is it says only lasts for 30 days


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Post by Awoken2 on Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:55 pm

If it does expose or throw open to question anything about Olu I wouldn't think the BBC or Channel 4 would have anything to do with it's production. I'm guessing it would have been made by an independent.

I've had a good look but unable to find anything just yet.
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Post by Awoken2 on Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:11 pm

@handle wrote:I have just been told that there was a documentary last month on the findings on pat and olu (info which started here on this forum).
I think it was the Beeb ( BBC) and also a channel 4 chap was interviewed whether he saw a girl being caught from mid air to which he replied he did not actually see it happen


I think this may be what they were referring to. This is the BBC's attempt at due diligence/cover up. You would have thought they would have Olu's number on speed dial as he was used repeatedly by the MSM to push their narrative.

It's amazing how shy he has gone since being outed, now he has nothing at all to say about it, no surprises there.

https://youtu.be/VYPJc_wStqc
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Post by handle on Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:30 pm

Awoken2 - excellent research.
That fits in exactly to what i have been told.

I wonder how that now fits in with an apology to you from the newspaper you complained about.

Does Annie Logic know about this finding? Surely she woukd feel exonerated by this truth especially as she had a bit of grief over this.

I would like to think that it was this forum that prompted the investigation.

I bet newsnight research team worked on this after we highlighted it.

The only thing i do not like is that final say is by a media outlet, allbeit echoing what we highlighted. The media should not be acting like judge and jury, because we all know they select what they show. Its just that on this occasion they cannot clean off the egg on face so gad to show the truth which we have already point out.

Shoukdnt be called newsnight. Should be called oldhistorynight.

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Post by Awoken2 on Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:54 pm

I think Newsnight's "investigation" has left one or two stones unturned here.

The first thing to take into account is that George  Clarke who is employed by the BBC actually states that he witnessed the baby being caught so that means he lied on camera. Any real investigation would have made him accountable for that but instead he was allowed to put out some ridiculous statement and say no more about it.

Their only other "witness" again declined to comment but again any real investigation would have also showed this clip where you can see her spurious shite for yourself.

https://youtu.be/3MDeZIpbMMc

Bear in mind that interview was broadcast by the BBC, as real news. So why now are they allowed to say nothing?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41550836

Also they didn't even approach the Sun about the ridiculous story, so what is the purpose of the investigation if you can't even get a statement from Olu never mind getting him on camera.?

That Jody Martin character you hear from is talking utter rubbish about what he saw also.

As far as I can see Handle it's like putting a sticking plaster on a  nasty gunshot wound. The BBC as an organisation need to be brought down.

I posted the link to Annie Logical on her latest video just to make her aware if she wasn't already.


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Post by Awoken2 on Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:27 pm

I knew I had seen that Jody Martin talk a load of shite somewhere before. It appears that the BBC have used his services before.

https://youtu.be/PTMQdTkengI

This story paints the London Fire Brigade as being rather reckless with their risk assessment protocols if they allow members of the public to grab an axe from their appliance and go running into a burning building.

The company of which he is a director,  Notting Hill Financial Ltd had a healthy injection of capital this year. That will probably be his BBC paycheck.
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Post by handle on Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:08 am

Also in the youtube video re pat/olu the presenter made a comment at the beginning that was quickly whisked over but left me feeling rattled. I have identified that comment where he says "its not about telling lies or the truth......"
This bothered me because it gives the impression that such dangerous fake news is ok and it leaves the viewer feeling that. (Is this subliminal?). But that comment is bollix.
Its extremely dangerous to spread lies in national news that leave people believing its "ok" to throw one's children out if a 14 floor window if there is a fire.
That comment is trying to exonerate such advice being given by the media by saying it is not about lies. Based on that program and that old chestnut called common sense there is more that a probability that the story was a blatant lie and a pretty dangerous one at that.

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Post by Awoken2 on Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:00 pm

Handle What you have seen there is the BBC taking CARE of things. Cover A*se Retain Employment.

From the outset you can see what the agenda is, although they phrase it as an investigation and use terms like scrutinizing evidence the programme did neither.

It first acknowledges that lies were told but then goes on to say that the myth was perpetuated by some type of collective  memory problem from traumatised witnesses. The fact that both eye witnesses to the miracle event declined to comment further just shows how shambolic their investigation was. They even tried to justify George Clarke's comments because he "was tired".

This is just an excercise by the BBC trying to distance itself from some of the terrible lies that were told over this event which were later exposed on social media, and here.


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Post by Awoken2 on Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:11 am

Thanks SOTS, my investigation has just took a new turn

https://youtu.be/e6Xe3CMzMIw
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:19 pm

@Society of the Spectacle wrote:GOOD FILM,
( I enjoyed this one innit ? )


BABY thrown out of WINDOW of Burning Building.

"ILL MANORS by Plan B 2012."
"BIN  F*CKING  GO "


Link to Time Marked spot,

https://youtu.be/QJgWr9GjhN4?t=1h42m49s


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Post by Awoken2 on Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:47 pm

More filthy political fingerprints on this "terrible accident"

Do you emember this rubbish?


@Society of the Spectacle wrote:
@Awoken2 wrote:Meanwhile our friend Olu has utilised his musical friends to make him a few bob, obviously the millions of pounds raised already just isn't enough.

https://siphili.bandcamp.com/track/24-storeys-of-pain

His last Track was CORBYN for the WIN.
No agenda here folks,

Now listen in to this song at 3m 35 seconds

https://youtu.be/e6Xe3CMzMIw

Five years before this "event" happens we have Plan B making films about how bad life is in London's seedy suburbs, babies being thrown out of burning buildings and music videos which could be the "oppositions" next party political broadcast.

(See Smith-Mundt Modernization thread for predictive programming info)






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Post by Guest on Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:51 pm

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The PTB should be glad you don't have more resources at your disposal fella.....

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