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Post by Phillpots on Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:34 pm

There are 14 HM Land Registry Offices across the UK. All are listed on CompanyCheck among others as well. A deeper check on Senior Executives takes you down a different avenue.

CompanyCheck brings up 29 results under a search 'land registry'

A quick look through these and one stands out. HM Land Registry in Plymouth. Boring you might say. And so it is.

Plymouth is home of maritime heritage in the UK. The address is on Seaton Court, William Prance Road just off Tavistock Road. Couldn't make this stuff up could you. Employees at this business is 800. Car share springs to mind as there are only 300 parking places.

This is what all government corporation businesses are a Non-Limited Business and that is where the buck stops. They are hiding under this classification where even CompanyCheck will not say (and I have asked) who they get their information from.

Solve the mystery of Non-Limited Business and - well you have solved it. TBC

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seat (n.2)
"residence, abode, established place," late 13c., extended use of seat (n.1), influenced by Old French siege "seat, established place," and Latin sedes "seat." Meaning "city in which a government sits" is attested from c. 1400. Sense of "right of taking a place in a parliament or other legislative body" is attested from 1774. Old English had sæt "place where one sits in ambush," which also meant "residents, inhabitants," and is the source of the -set in Dorset and Somerset.

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We need info on this catagory. What is this catagory? Who are they registering to? How can we gain access to getting information about these corporations. I say that because that is what I believe them to be. If we take Land Registry as a start and work out from there. Anyone with any thoughts or ideas please post.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/hm-land-registry-office-addresses/office-addresses

https://companycheck.co.uk/search?term=land+registry&type=company-uk,company-nltd,company-euro&page=1

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Post by LionsShare on Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:05 pm

@Phillpots wrote:We need info on this catagory. What is this catagory? Who are they registering to? How can we gain access to getting information about these corporations.
OK this is what I have found:

https://www.firstreport.co.uk/Check-Non-Limited-Business.aspx

extract:  Confusion often arises regarding the difference between limited and non-limited companies. Fundamentally, the difference is thus: limited is short for “limited liability”, which essentially means that if a limited company is sued or goes bankrupt, liability does not extend to the shareholders in the business.

On the other hand, a non-limited company has unlimited liability. Non-limited companies are typically sole traders or partnerships, and are liable for any problems encountered. One such example involves a plumber – if a plumber were to accidentally flood your house and cause damage to your property, you would have grounds to sue them. The majority of non-limited firms take out insurance policies which cover such scenarios.

sole traders: back to the good ol' birth cert'.

I bet those so called "non-limited companies" don't have unlimited liability, & would it be possible to get to know the names of actual directors?
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Post by Phillpots on Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:41 pm

Nice one LionShare. You have found info on the crux of the issue and what an issue it is. If anyone can break this then a whole new meaning to non-limited business will become clearer to those that know about what this issue is about.

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Post by LionsShare on Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:11 am

Phillpots:

My hypothesis, if you think about the "sole trader" & all the implications of how he gets shafted if something goes wrong, what about all these "non-limited businesses"? Councils, police etc, who "cops" it when something goes wrong?

Something does not sit quite right does it?

All in all what I have found I think after further reading will not fall in line with the "normal" ideas behind "non-limited business".

Think further, if you try to sue ? corporation (non-limited business) over ? then the repercussions or at least what should give normally will not apply here! Try to counter sue a council (or indeed anyone inside that council) over issuing a liability order & see what happens!
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Post by Phillpots on Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:26 am

Thanks LionShare some really good info there. Getting your head round the non-limited business catagory is not easy. I suppose that's why it was created and all government are under it.

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Post by daveiron on Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:34 am

Hi, lionshare/phillpots

Whenever i correspond with any organisation i always include in my letter that " I require all correspondence to be signed by a named individual who takes liability for its contents."

maybe worth including .

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Post by LionsShare on Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:59 am

cheers daveiron
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Post by assassin on Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:26 pm

If you go down the council route it becomes interesting, there are two forms here, one being the council, the other being the local authority, which is which and who is liable for what.

This is a question which needs establishing first as some councils employees wear two hats, they are council employees working for the council, but under delegated duties they can undertake several functions for, and on behalf of the local authority, so you need to establish which is which, if they take on delegated duties, and which company they work for.

Councils cannot own anything, local authorities can, to get round this an appointed council officer has to own everything and usually (but not always) it is the Mayor as he/she is an elected official.
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Post by Phillpots on Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:03 pm

Really good info thanks everyone.

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Post by LionsShare on Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:26 am

@assassin wrote:If you go down the council route it becomes interesting, there are two forms here, one being the council, the other being the local authority
Hi assassin, could you elaborate what is the difference between council & local authority? I always thought (probably wrong) the council are the "company" who claim to be the "local authority"?
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Post by assassin on Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:36 pm

Its basically a cause for confusion, and about liability created by this smoke screen of liability.

Basically it comes down to jurisdiction and who does what, a council has limited powers and an authority has many more they apply under the guise of a council.
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Post by Phillpots on Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:09 pm

Thanks for the info assassin. Looking at it that way it must be fraud they are committing or am I wrong in that?

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Post by assassin on Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:57 am

No, but finding out which authority is acting is crucial, and through which medium they are acting is critical to unravelling it all.
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