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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Hi LS, I am going to write back to them and enclose a notarial dispute, it was purely a reminder that payment was overdue, no slip accompanied it, should I send the one they sent me back??? Should I do a sar?
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
try to send back the 1 they sent you but its over 72 hours for supposed contract law.
YES YES do SAR for the alledged debt, ask for dates, reason(s) - description of the amounts are for, account balance at every stage, balance amount (different to previous account balance) (this should be 0. was for me), payments made/received on account with sort codes + account numbers (if they supply this tell me & will give further help - important), & anything else you can think of.
good luck
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YES YES do SAR for the alledged debt, ask for dates, reason(s) - description of the amounts are for, account balance at every stage, balance amount (different to previous account balance) (this should be 0. was for me), payments made/received on account with sort codes + account numbers (if they supply this tell me & will give further help - important), & anything else you can think of.
good luck
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
is there a template letter on here? I obviously want to get the wording and questions 100% correct so they have no get out clauses, I love this game and just need to gain more experience to have even more fun!
be lucky
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be lucky
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Essex and Suffolk Water again
so I recieved this yesterday, it is dated 23/8/9 so took 6 days to get here! They are lying again as I have not had anything from them since my last post, there is only a signature with no real person to be able to have contact with, another way of avoiding personal liability I suppose. Can they put an attachment of earnings in place? as they mention DWP for benefits(which I dont get any)
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Hi Sharpysparky,
its not my area of expertise, but possibly as I take it you are an employee then instruct your company to leave your wages alone, they should ONLY take sums out with your consent.
that's the best I can do.
LS
its not my area of expertise, but possibly as I take it you are an employee then instruct your company to leave your wages alone, they should ONLY take sums out with your consent.
that's the best I can do.
LS
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
I have recently had somat similar but mine are mentioning selling the alledged debt, but how can they do that if NO debt exists? Or passing to dca, have sent an instruction under GDPR 2018 to not process my data any further.
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Sharpysparky, in your letter they mention sharing data with credit ref angecies, did you SAR for proof debt exists?
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Hi LS YES I did and I am still waiting for them to furnish me with this, imo this just makes them look really bad in carrying out their legal duties if it ever went to court, I have been working like a dog the past few months so have had no time to chase them but I am off next week so will re send the request and enclose the original one I sent em and remind them that it is a legal requirement
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Essex and Suffolk water again
So I have been away for a few days and have received two letters from them, the first one is saying that for them to fulfil the gdpr regs I must supply them with some ID, ie:- list A, birth(berth) certificate, Pass Port, photo driving licence, NI identity card, or list B, Recent utility bill, council tax bill bank/building society statement, firstly I am not happy doing any of them as I think it was DI that said its just more data mining,
The second letter is I think a bit more serious and need my mind putting at rest, it states: NOTICE OF INTENTION TO REGISTER A DEFAULT, they want payment before the 11/10/19 or it will be registered on my consumer credit file!
What are my options? Shall I just front it out? I am not worried about credit as its only my mobile that this would affect I think? As I dont use or depend on credit really
Any help or words of wisdom will be gratefully received
Sharpysparky
The second letter is I think a bit more serious and need my mind putting at rest, it states: NOTICE OF INTENTION TO REGISTER A DEFAULT, they want payment before the 11/10/19 or it will be registered on my consumer credit file!
What are my options? Shall I just front it out? I am not worried about credit as its only my mobile that this would affect I think? As I dont use or depend on credit really
Any help or words of wisdom will be gratefully received
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
I am sure that I did see a post somewhere which covered the question of what ID could be asked for. I cannot find it, but no doubt others would have read it and may know where it can be found.
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Hi Midnight, I thought I read something too but like you cant find or remember where, thanks for comment tho fella
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
I found this, hope it helps, Its from the IOC website
Can we ask an individual for ID?
If you have doubts about the identity of the person making the request you can ask for more information. However, it is important that you only request information that is necessary to confirm who they are. The key to this is proportionality.
You need to let the individual know as soon as possible that you need more information from them to confirm their identity before responding to their request. The period for responding to the request begins when you receive the additional information.
Can we clarify the request?
If you process a large amount of information about an individual you can ask them for more information to clarify their request. You should only ask for information that you reasonably need to find the personal data covered by the request.
You need to let the individual know as soon as possible that you need more information from them before responding to their request. The period for responding to the request begins when you receive the additional information. However, if an individual refuses to provide any additional information, you must still endeavour to comply with their request ie by making reasonable searches for the information covered by the request.
What about requests made on behalf of others?
The GDPR does not prevent an individual making a subject access request via a third party. Often, this will be a solicitor acting on behalf of a client, but it could simply be that an individual feels comfortable allowing someone else to act for them. In these cases, you need to be satisfied that the third party making the request is entitled to act on behalf of the individual, but it is the third party’s responsibility to provide evidence of this entitlement. This might be a written authority to make the request or it might be a more general power of attorney.
Can we ask an individual for ID?
If you have doubts about the identity of the person making the request you can ask for more information. However, it is important that you only request information that is necessary to confirm who they are. The key to this is proportionality.
You need to let the individual know as soon as possible that you need more information from them to confirm their identity before responding to their request. The period for responding to the request begins when you receive the additional information.
Can we clarify the request?
If you process a large amount of information about an individual you can ask them for more information to clarify their request. You should only ask for information that you reasonably need to find the personal data covered by the request.
You need to let the individual know as soon as possible that you need more information from them before responding to their request. The period for responding to the request begins when you receive the additional information. However, if an individual refuses to provide any additional information, you must still endeavour to comply with their request ie by making reasonable searches for the information covered by the request.
What about requests made on behalf of others?
The GDPR does not prevent an individual making a subject access request via a third party. Often, this will be a solicitor acting on behalf of a client, but it could simply be that an individual feels comfortable allowing someone else to act for them. In these cases, you need to be satisfied that the third party making the request is entitled to act on behalf of the individual, but it is the third party’s responsibility to provide evidence of this entitlement. This might be a written authority to make the request or it might be a more general power of attorney.
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Thanks DI, I will send them a letter pointing out some of them points, They clearly respond to my letters and address them to me so I think they are just trying to be awkward tbh
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Sharpysparky wrote:Hi Midnight, I thought I read something too but like you cant find or remember where, thanks for comment tho fella
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I beleave that it was a post with a link to a pdf document.
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
I will have a search through over the weekend and see if I can find it, thanks midnight
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
OK NEVER have I seen "notice of default" this is REALLY NEW, most here that are involved in "DEBT" will have some sort of answer but my experience has ALWAYS to engage at every stage, & demand proof of debt, with out that there is NOTHING
"NI identity card," fooooook that, regarding "debt" follow DI that's all I can say, how ever from pay by endorse if you have done ALL up to date & got ALL to prove then it should not be too difficult as you can prove... pay through bills of exchange
I am not probably too much help from here on in but...
I have had a "demand" recently & sent it back with scanned evidened have paid through bills of exchange so will have to wait & see
"NI identity card," fooooook that, regarding "debt" follow DI that's all I can say, how ever from pay by endorse if you have done ALL up to date & got ALL to prove then it should not be too difficult as you can prove... pay through bills of exchange
I am not probably too much help from here on in but...
I have had a "demand" recently & sent it back with scanned evidened have paid through bills of exchange so will have to wait & see
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
sharpey if I could give far more from here on in I would but..... I am really STUCK! I could speak to you direct ( if you had my number) but you would really still feel the same!
as per DI vid on spaniard :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=TrXuahZRUjs
its about testing what WE know? Some have their estate claimed that's the problem, claim it & you should be FREE!
please question ME!
essentially stick to your guns & if & ONLY if you pay by endorsement & have all scanned docs to prove then tell them "go on fooker take me to court"
why?
As per archbold book of quotations "those who claim MUST prove" although those that have been to court will know otherwise....
these are ALL corrupt!
LS
as per DI vid on spaniard :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=TrXuahZRUjs
its about testing what WE know? Some have their estate claimed that's the problem, claim it & you should be FREE!
please question ME!
essentially stick to your guns & if & ONLY if you pay by endorsement & have all scanned docs to prove then tell them "go on fooker take me to court"
why?
As per archbold book of quotations "those who claim MUST prove" although those that have been to court will know otherwise....
these are ALL corrupt!
LS
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Hi,
Just to add on to LS's reply.You could also add into your response the Maxim of Law ; A presumption at Law
stands unless proved otherwise. My thoughts are if you made the presumption ( and use the word presumption)
that all you have done is in accordance with the BoE act . The onus is then upon them to show via factual
evidence that you ( and the BoE act)are wrong.
Just to add on to LS's reply.You could also add into your response the Maxim of Law ; A presumption at Law
stands unless proved otherwise. My thoughts are if you made the presumption ( and use the word presumption)
that all you have done is in accordance with the BoE act . The onus is then upon them to show via factual
evidence that you ( and the BoE act)are wrong.
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Thanks guys, well I have endorsed on two occasions the first they wrote back n said they dont accept it but NEVER returned it, the second time they returned it saying they’re payment methods were on the reverse of the bill and thats all they will accept, next letter I got was they were going to take legal action with a district judge, I just ignored that one, the two letters received while I was away is the only communication I have had from them, they did phone me a few days before I went but I explained I will only deal with them in writing and terminated the call, the letter they sent explained their reason for the call was to do an ID check so they could send me my SAR I had asked for
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
sharpy,
it might be worth you starting with archbold & look for the case setting evidence there, times V atterney general I think, also start to look for more examples of case setting as evidence from the POV "the claimant MUST prove".
LS
it might be worth you starting with archbold & look for the case setting evidence there, times V atterney general I think, also start to look for more examples of case setting as evidence from the POV "the claimant MUST prove".
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LionsShare wrote:sharpy,
it might be worth you starting with archbold & look for the case setting evidence there, times V atterney general I think, also start to look for more examples of case setting as evidence from the POV "the claimant MUST prove".
LS
Cheers LS I will have a browse around see what I can find, thanks for the guidance thus far
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Hi, here is a site that contains some similar information that I had seen and read. See the part that is headed [u]What should be specifically avoided.[u]
https://iapp.org/news/a/how-to-verify-identity-of-data-subjects-for-dsars-under-the-gdpr/
https://iapp.org/news/a/how-to-verify-identity-of-data-subjects-for-dsars-under-the-gdpr/
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Re: Essex & Suffolk Water
Hi midnight, interesting read, the way I see it is I have been writing to them long enough now and they are responding to my letters so under GDPR if they were unsure of my id why reply? They have just sent me yet another bill lol so endorse here we come
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