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help with wording
Hi everyone,
need to send an SAR to water company and need help in either wording it correctly or there being a template letter somewhere on here that I cannot find, I want to get this right so there is no get out for them, obviously a non commercial agreement but they chose to ignore that fact when I pointed it out to them with the joint giro credit slip (that they returned!!!)
Be lucky
sharpysparky
need to send an SAR to water company and need help in either wording it correctly or there being a template letter somewhere on here that I cannot find, I want to get this right so there is no get out for them, obviously a non commercial agreement but they chose to ignore that fact when I pointed it out to them with the joint giro credit slip (that they returned!!!)
Be lucky
sharpysparky
Sharpysparky- Very helpful
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Re: help with wording
Just a few suggestions.
This is a Subject Data Access request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
Please supply any and all data you hold on (your name) .I require all data to be supplied in
a format accessible without specialised equipment. Also to be included are any and all contracts
or agreements which you believe exist between (your name) and (their name).
See what other suggestion you get & build around them.
This is a Subject Data Access request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.
Please supply any and all data you hold on (your name) .I require all data to be supplied in
a format accessible without specialised equipment. Also to be included are any and all contracts
or agreements which you believe exist between (your name) and (their name).
See what other suggestion you get & build around them.
daveiron- Admin
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Re: help with wording
thanks DI, will see if theres any more suggestions as you say but what you have put seems pretty easy for them to understand lol
be lucky
sharpysparky
be lucky
sharpysparky
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Re: help with wording
I would go with what DI has advised - nice and simple / no room for wriggle room
Mrblue2015- Moderator
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Re: help with wording
lol Mrblue, yea did think that quite simple for these scammers to get what im asking for! will keep you up to date IF they ever get back to me!
be lucky
sharpysparky
be lucky
sharpysparky
Sharpysparky- Very helpful
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Re: help with wording
DSAR results can take months... (yes, even though you’re supposed to get your data within one month)
Mrblue2015- Moderator
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Re: help with wording
If you do not receive all within a month ,contact the ICO immediately ,I have found that gets results.
daveiron- Admin
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Re: help with wording
cool DII will do that, it will be interesting to see what they send back as I have never done this before, it might also make them think what Im playing at
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Re: help with wording
state you are looking for data that pertains to the name of ? regarding an alledged outstanding debt.
as i stated in the other thread ask for stuff like:
as i stated in the other thread ask for stuff like:
LionsShare wrote:try to send back the 1 they sent you but its over 72 hours for supposed contract law.
YES YES do SAR for the alledged debt, ask for dates, reason(s) - description of the amounts are for, account balance at every stage, balance amount (different to previous account balance) (this should be 0. was for me), payments made/received on account with sort codes + account numbers (if they supply this tell me & will give further help - important), & anything else you can think of.
good luck
LS
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Re: help with wording
how does this look to you all??
Essex And Suffolk Water
PO Box 292,
Durham DH1 9TX.
My Ref: xxxxxxxxxx
Dear sir/madam,
This is a Data Subject Access Request under the freedom of information ACT 2000
Please supply any and all data you pertain to the name of xxxxx regarding an alleged outstanding debt for dates xxxx & xxxx and the reasons you believe these debts exist under a non commercial agreement, also I require the description the amounts are for, I also require account balance at every stage and balance amount, also required are payments made/received on account with sort codes + account numbers I require all data to be supplied in a format accessible without specialised equipment. Also to be included are any and all contracts or agreements which you believe exist between xxxxx and Essex And Suffolk Water.
By Order:
Essex And Suffolk Water
PO Box 292,
Durham DH1 9TX.
My Ref: xxxxxxxxxx
Dear sir/madam,
This is a Data Subject Access Request under the freedom of information ACT 2000
Please supply any and all data you pertain to the name of xxxxx regarding an alleged outstanding debt for dates xxxx & xxxx and the reasons you believe these debts exist under a non commercial agreement, also I require the description the amounts are for, I also require account balance at every stage and balance amount, also required are payments made/received on account with sort codes + account numbers I require all data to be supplied in a format accessible without specialised equipment. Also to be included are any and all contracts or agreements which you believe exist between xxxxx and Essex And Suffolk Water.
By Order:
Sharpysparky- Very helpful
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Re: help with wording
thanks LS have taken on board what you said and posted on here to make sure it sound okLionsShare wrote:state you are looking for data that pertains to the name of ? regarding an alledged outstanding debt.
as i stated in the other thread ask for stuff like:LionsShare wrote:try to send back the 1 they sent you but its over 72 hours for supposed contract law.
YES YES do SAR for the alledged debt, ask for dates, reason(s) - description of the amounts are for, account balance at every stage, balance amount (different to previous account balance) (this should be 0. was for me), payments made/received on account with sort codes + account numbers (if they supply this tell me & will give further help - important), & anything else you can think of.
good luck
LS
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Re: help with wording
I would add after xxxxx .including but not limited to.
daveiron- Admin
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Re: help with wording
ask for something contradictory:
please show data pertaining to the name ? you have a Commercial Agreement.
please show data pertaining to the name ? you have a non-Commercial Agreement.
this way they will have to answer 1 way or the other, if they state non-comm' that's it you have them. You can pay by endorse
please show data pertaining to the name ? you have a Commercial Agreement.
please show data pertaining to the name ? you have a non-Commercial Agreement.
this way they will have to answer 1 way or the other, if they state non-comm' that's it you have them. You can pay by endorse
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Re: help with wording
very clever LS I love your style and am quite enjoying the games we can play
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Re: help with wording
looks so official to me lol you guys are amazing at what you know, I thank you sincerely
Essex And Suffolk Water
PO Box 292,
Durham DH1 9TX.
My Ref: xxxx
Dear sir/madam,
This is a Data Subject Access Request under the freedom of information ACT 2000
Please supply any and all data you pertain to the name of xxxxx including but not limited to regarding an alleged outstanding debt for dates 11/06/2018 & 04/06/2019 and the reasons you believe these debts exist under a commercial agreement,
Please supply any and all data you pertain to the name of xxxxx including but not limited to regarding an alleged outstanding debt for dates 11/06/2018 & 04/06/2019 and the reasons you believe these debts exist under a non commercial agreement.
also I require the description the amounts are for, I also require account balance at every stage and balance amount, also required are payments made/received on account with sort codes + account numbers I require all data to be supplied in a format accessible without specialised equipment. Also to be included are any and all contracts or agreements which you believe exist between xxxxx and Essex And Suffolk Water.
By Order:
Errors & Omissions Excepted
Essex And Suffolk Water
PO Box 292,
Durham DH1 9TX.
My Ref: xxxx
Dear sir/madam,
This is a Data Subject Access Request under the freedom of information ACT 2000
Please supply any and all data you pertain to the name of xxxxx including but not limited to regarding an alleged outstanding debt for dates 11/06/2018 & 04/06/2019 and the reasons you believe these debts exist under a commercial agreement,
Please supply any and all data you pertain to the name of xxxxx including but not limited to regarding an alleged outstanding debt for dates 11/06/2018 & 04/06/2019 and the reasons you believe these debts exist under a non commercial agreement.
also I require the description the amounts are for, I also require account balance at every stage and balance amount, also required are payments made/received on account with sort codes + account numbers I require all data to be supplied in a format accessible without specialised equipment. Also to be included are any and all contracts or agreements which you believe exist between xxxxx and Essex And Suffolk Water.
By Order:
Errors & Omissions Excepted
Sharpysparky- Very helpful
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Re: help with wording
One final thing. I would number those paragraphs 1.2.3. as there is only one word difference between 1&2 & if not read properly by them it may not be apparent.
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Re: help with wording
Thanks DI, I have already sent it now, but if they are so clever and they want to trick us with the words they use then its up to them to read what is written correctly imo, making it too easy for them is not the game I will play lol.
point taken though fella for your well educated input it is very much appreciated
be lucky
sharpysparky
point taken though fella for your well educated input it is very much appreciated
be lucky
sharpysparky
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Re: help with wording
does this not come under GDPR2018?Sharpysparky wrote:This is a Data Subject Access Request under the freedom of information ACT
Freedom Of Information comes FOI Act 2000?
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Re: help with wording
I stand corrected, Its the Data Protection Act 2018. However in the event of non compliance
it is still the ICO who handles complaints.
it is still the ICO who handles complaints.
daveiron- Admin
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Re: help with wording
So have I got a chance in them supplying me with anything or will they just laugh lol, so it should have read data protection act 2000 not foi act 2000?
Be luck
Sharpysparky
Be luck
Sharpysparky
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Re: help with wording
you should get somat back but it will depend on what they send. I got somat intellgable but not complete. Knowing that now is why I stated about asking for all you need to put in your Subject Access Request
I have done all that now & still waiting for the latest to appear.
I have done all that now & still waiting for the latest to appear.
LionsShare- Moderator
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Re: help with wording
I’ve found my requests to painful and lengthy most likely due to the usual case of it being idiots in an office haha
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Re: help with wording
Lol Mr blue, ok guys heres hoping then
Sharpysparky- Very helpful
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Tbh, It should not make a difference as you put" This is a subject access request"
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