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Post by LionsShare on Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:45 pm

Hi all,

Just a general question, I am NOT advertising:

Is this any good? Has anyone tried or know of someone trying/ed it?

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/jacob-hooy-cbd-oil-2-75-60008899?skuid=008899

Is it possible to get a better (stronger) mix form a VALID source? Don't want to take anything that might do damage (I know someone that might require it).

How good would this be for healing? If anyone has proper info I could use to point me in the right direction, much appreciated.
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Post by LionsShare on Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:50 pm

cheers ALAB
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Post by Lawful rebel on Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:27 pm

H LS the so called cbd oil from h&b is nothing more than hemp SEED oil and imho a total waste of money as you can get a bottle of hemp seed oil at most supermarkets for around a fiver! ok as a food supplement but forget the cbd value.

the site below is top draw and i can recommend as iv bought and used it for a few issues and can confirm its the real deal i used the Raw  CBDa 3% as its the most affordable @26 euros after 3% the prices are gob smacking! they do other products including capsules creams etc.
sent from Holland made in Sweden.
https://www.endoca.com/
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Post by LionsShare on Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:46 pm

@Lawful rebel wrote:H LS the so called cbd oil from h&b is nothing more than hemp SEED oil and imho a total waste of money as you can get a bottle of hemp seed oil at most supermarkets for around a fiver! ok as a food supplement but forget the cbd value.

the site below is top draw and i can recommend as iv bought and used it for a few issues and can confirm its the real deal i used the Raw  CBDa 3% as its the most affordable @26 euros after 3% the prices are gob smacking! they do other products including capsules creams etc.
sent from Holland made in Sweden.
https://www.endoca.com/
Thanks for the info. Prices you are not joking either!
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Post by Lawful rebel on Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:48 pm

some more on cbd:
make your own?
you could if your lucky stumble on a hemp field and collect some material as long as you dont take the whole plant im sure a few branches wont be missed or cause loss to the grower.

A vid from the endoca guys on how to do just that he uses ethanol but most of the people i know use isopropyl alcohol.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IPA-ISOPROPYL-ALCOHOL-ISOPROPANOL-5-LITRE-99-9-NEXT-WORKING-DAY-DELIVERY/221251615194?epid=1423754095&hash=item33839fb9da:g:Cu4AAOSwL7VWllmY



short video on its effects against fits...


With animals there is no need for double blind trials as they dont lie or react to placebo's;)
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Post by Lawful rebel on Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:10 pm

This video was the forerunner to all we know today on the healing effects of cannabinoids.
Many testimonials to its cures and mega research data available now since those early days.

run from the cure: by Rick Simpson


keeping this from joe public is a crime against humanity.
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Post by mitch on Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:24 pm

Make sure what you're getting isn't GMO

MONSANTO CREATES FIRST GENETICALLY MODIFIED STRAIN OF MARIJUANA
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/monsanto-creates-first-genetically-modified-strain-of-marijuana/

Big Corporations Pushing For Genetically Modified Weed Industry
https://herb.co/marijuana/news/gmo
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Post by LionsShare on Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:27 am

Thanks to everyone for all replies
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:41 pm

@mitch wrote:Make sure what you're getting isn't GMO

MONSANTO CREATES FIRST GENETICALLY MODIFIED STRAIN OF MARIJUANA
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/monsanto-creates-first-genetically-modified-strain-of-marijuana/

Big Corporations Pushing For Genetically Modified Weed Industry
https://herb.co/marijuana/news/gmo

IMO; they have been genetically modifying weed for years.
Note the giveaways,
First none of the Strong weed is fertile,
you cant get seeds to plant the next year.
Second the stuff is High in tranquilising and Psycho active cannabinoids.
Not at all like the old natural weed.
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Post by Lawful rebel on Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:47 pm

Cannabis is a natural hermaphrodite one of natures life continuation tactics prevalent in cannabis, the plant if no males are present will produce a few male flowers they look like tiny yellow bananas and will self pollinate its these seeds that will produce female plants.

i would suspect that if you cant germinate seeds they are either damaged or have not developed properly.

Firstly GM weed is still a long way from being common place though typically most weed is hybridised meaning selective cross pollination of differing strains.

There are three types of cannabis: cannabis sativa predominantly from equatorial regions c sativa gives euphoric high's uplifting and energetic this was the weed of the day before the stronger hybrids arrived fantastic for lifting depression these include Acapulco gold/Durban Poison/Columbian/thai sticks etc anyone over forty will recognise there names.

Secondly is cannabis Indica this is the predominant strain grown today mainly from mountainous regions,they grow smaller than Sativa which helps to combat high cold numbing winds they also flower a lot earlier yealds generally more than sativa's there THC value can be enormous with skunk being the forerunner to many hybridised seeds available today and the choice of many gorilla gardener's as it is high in THC flowers quickly and brings in big yealds its ass planting effects are what people seem to prefer these day's maybe “Hobsom's choice” though the above comment is more likely the reason its why its here a purely commercial aspect however the indica strains do offer more medical benefits.

Thirdly is the little known about cannabis Ruderalis a strain that is indigenous to northan climates and is very hardy its unique in the fact that it is not photo reactive meaning that the other two strains flower according to seasonal changes typically at 12hr days and nights,Ruderalis will begin flowering after the third internode “third set of leaves” irrespective of temp or sunlight and is the hybrid choice for auto flowering seeds, Low rider being one of the first,these you can grow and flower in the winter in a sunny spot,they grow small and yealds are tiny in comparison.

I guess mention should be made of the good old hemp plant at around 0.3% THC its legal to grow here with a license negligible in thc but loaded with cannabinoids one of them being cannabadiol aka cbd.

So while it is concern for the future GM cannabis is not an issue at the moment for the free thinkers concentrate on buying some seeds for when there is an issue for yourself the family or friends.

Like heirloom vegetable seeds some cannabis seeds are still un hybridised like Durban poison.

Some more reading on making the choice.
https://avntgrdnr.com/vintage-unhybridized-strains-versus-todays-mutant-thc-potent-strains/

choices.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/cannabis-seed-breeders/the-real-seed-company

I must add that I am not affiliated have no connection or financial incentives for the sites linked just examples.

So bottom line is buy some traditional seed strains for the future oh and btw store them in the fridge and they will be viable for years.
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Re: Cbd Oil

Post by Lopsum on Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:08 pm

@Lawful rebel wrote:Cannabis is a natural hermaphrodite one of natures life continuation tactics prevalent in cannabis, the plant if no males are present will produce a few male flowers they look like tiny yellow bananas and will self pollinate its these seeds that will produce female plants.
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not true, herm plants will ONLY produce herm seeds . These will all be different, some will only form one or 2 male parts per stem some will be 50 50 or more, all will be useless if you want thc , the seed formation directs all the plants energy to the seed not the flower.
if you want to feminise seeds you need 2 herm females, these pollinate eachother then you need to use colloidal silver to cause reversion in the seed. Unfortunately its harder than you think.
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Post by Lopsum on Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:17 pm

i also think the gmo weed is bs , i dont know where you got that info sots. Please post it up.
The strains we see today are a result of selective breeding between more natural land race varieties found growing wild.
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Post by Lopsum on Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:15 pm

the confusion lies around the definition of GMO , chemical inhibition of genes has been round for a long time but has only now been labeled as GMO.
Feminising seeds is genetically modifying them, you inhibit the male gene from expresing , but not in the sense we have of gmo frankenstein plants with cells from other creatures etc. Its some fearporn for the pot heads :/

also chemical manipulation does not alter the dna and only affects genes already present in the plant , untreated seedlings of chemically manipulated plants wont pass on the mutation(as far as i know) , so there is alot less of an issue with it than what monsanto have done to corn etc.
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Post by Lawful rebel on Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:17 pm

@Lopsum wrote:
@Lawful rebel wrote:Cannabis is a natural hermaphrodite one of natures life continuation tactics prevalent in cannabis, the plant if no males are present will produce a few male flowers they look like tiny yellow bananas and will self pollinate its these seeds that will produce female plants.
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not true, herm plants will ONLY produce herm seeds . These will all be different, some will only form one or 2 male parts per stem some will be 50 50 or more, all will be useless if you want thc , the seed formation directs all the plants energy to the seed not the flower.
if you want to feminise seeds you need 2 herm females, these pollinate eachother  then you need to use colloidal silver to cause reversion in the seed. Unfortunately its harder than you think.

agreed on the GMO bs like you said pure fearporn though what the future has in store for the establishments agenda for gmo'ing weed is yet to be seen...

my input is from over 40 years experience and a passion for the plant:) the first medical properties i bumped into was in the 70s with the discovery of it curing glaucoma."the only cure"

in my experience a mal functioning timer led to erratic light cycles and voila a hermie was borne just on one cola but produced quite a few seeds on it kept back stored in the fridge and where my female plants for more than a few years! all seeds grew into females and where giving the same quality of yield and potency as the dona though that did dissipate and became useless after about five years.
A long flowering cycle will do much the same i like the buds big so from a recommended 70 day flowering cycle i would go for 100! they get huge and often show a banana or two on cropping which i dont mind as they are kept for later.

The above is true in my experience;) have never needed two hermie plants for pollination with viable seeds in the past so maybe your experience was with a different strain.
Also mass pollination can be avoided by placing a bag over the hermie branch before the stamens open though for me it usually happens late into flowering so not a biggie.



About time!!!

A trial using cannabis oil to help a six-year-old boy with a rare, severe form of epilepsy is being considered by the government.

Alfie Dingley suffers 20 to 30 seizures each day - but his parents say that during a five-month visit to the Netherlands, where they could be legally prescribed cannabis oil to treat him, they only occurred every 27 days.

They also reduced in severity and length.

Until now, the Home Office has refused requests to allow them to treat him with the substance at home in the UK - but on Wednesday, a spokesman confimed that the government had proposed a three-month trial for Alfie.


http://www.itv.com/news/2018-03-01/cannabis-oil-medical-trial-alfie-dingley-epilepsy/
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Post by Sobolevy on Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:43 am

As for me, it's little bit scarry to use CBD oils...what can you advise me? Just try?

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Post by actinglikeabanker's Ghost on Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:29 am

@Sobolevy wrote:As for me, it's little bit scarry to use CBD oils...what can you advise me? Just try?

Hey,

CBD User’s Manual
Project CBD has created a beginner’s guide for cannabidiol & cannabis therapeutics to address key questions of CBD users.

https://www.projectcbd.org/guidance/cbd-users-manual

If you are worried about getting high, then don't be, commercial CBD oils do not contain (at least in the UK) the THC component.


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Post by Lawful rebel on Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:31 pm

Good link ALAB thanks.

if anyone has concerns about getting high consider raw plant juicing even if the donor plant was kickass strong it needs heat to turn from THCa to THC that includes drying.
https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-thca-and-what-are-the-benefits-of-this-cannabinoid

This does need more research and is top of my list for mega therapeutic potential as imo the raw plant has all we need to heal, in my experience THC does best with CBD together only the heat process will determine if you get high or not tho the high part does have some benefits for some and shouldn't be dis-regarded.
Juicing a raw plant will not make you high it will heal you check out this lady she came off over 40 meds via juicing raw cannabis.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xPmR8j4plw
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Post by Lopsum on Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:24 am

the whole plant is very nutritious, even the roots !
the thing with eating it as medicine (for THC!) it does need to be decaboxylated or it will just be digested, its the wrong shape to fit into the THC receptors as THCAcid so not ideal for THC therapy eating raw or dried.
An easy way would be to very gently sautee some ,dried ,crumbled in some cooking oil, till it stops popping . Then you can add it to anything and eat it.
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Post by handle on Wed May 02, 2018 6:29 am

Would not cooking ruin the effects?
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I read on one of the links in this thread that THC can speed up growth of cancer cells

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Post by Lopsum on Wed May 02, 2018 12:55 pm

if its done right no. The oil stops it oxidizing so it will take a burst of heat .
You can make cannabis infused oil or butter/ghee this way !
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which link?
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Post by Lopsum on Thu May 03, 2018 8:32 am

would have been more helpful to use a quote , but ive found it .
Likewise, cancer is not just one disease, which is why one treatment does not work on all types of cancer. Most cancers appear to be slowed by THC, but there are a few rare exceptions. When exposed to THC or similar synthetics, A549 lung cancer cells start reproducing, while exposure to CBD slows them down*. The usual “high THC” RSO could be a disaster for a small minority of cancer patients. We need more research, but that can’t happen without legalization!
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Post by Lopsum on Thu May 03, 2018 8:39 am

cant find where this info has come from , but this bit is worrying "When exposed to THC or similar synthetics" , the synthetics are killing people so wouldn't surprise me.
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