ULCT

Lopsum wrote:

urchinatheart wrote:Thank you. Because that never happened, it seems to follow that no lawful or legal contract between my living self and the Birth Certificate Creators/Owners exists.
So how can I be obliged to perform under it ? How can I be obliged to surrender my share of the use of earth's resources for commercial purposes ?
If I had a right to use all the food, water,gas, oil etc I needed when I was born, why is there a cost placed upon it when I need to use it now ?

You need to ask though or its just speculation. Really do it, ask for full disclosure and how consent is gained.
I wish someone would do it so i can collaborate the response i remember getting. (JUST DONT SIGN THE OSA!)

OSA???

This is an Act, Government are a corporation, we are governed by consent, true consent requires a wet signature under both contract law and commercial law, so join the dots.

Government UK PLC LTD is a registered company, they try to make acts which are not acts, they are company policy and nothing else, have you consented in writing with a wet ink signature? No, so it has no lawfulness.

Sharpysparky wrote:https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/51-52/41/section/79

Sheds some light I think???

After seeing this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhsA0X3KQXE

I have the idea that benefits may be paid out our 'credit' the council are sitting on?

LionsShare wrote:C'tax is different regarding liability (no payment voucher) & I would NOT urge anyone until you get to grips with ULCT to stop paying c'tax. Keep discharging out of your bank account.

Perhaps A4V is appropriate?

BECAREFULL!

assassin wrote:This is an Act, Government are a corporation, we are governed by consent, true consent requires a wet signature under both contract law and commercial law, so join the dots.

Government UK PLC LTD is a registered company, they try to make acts which are not acts, they are company policy and nothing else, have you consented in writing with a wet ink signature? No, so it has no lawfulness.

assassin, we aint all as far up the scale as you, as in being in the private or having as much knowledge, so sometime we have to beat them over the heads with their own policies/rules, my idea is to write to the CEO of the council and ask lots of questions about how these acts apply to us wo/men whilst for the time being remaining in honour, maybe do it in affidavit form, We have to try different things to see what results we get, im not 100% ready to just stop paying ct at the mo but its getting close

SS

Sharpysparky wrote:

assassin wrote:This is an Act, Government are a corporation, we are governed by consent, true consent requires a wet signature under both contract law and commercial law, so join the dots.

Government UK PLC LTD is a registered company, they try to make acts which are not acts, they are company policy and nothing else, have you consented in writing with a wet ink signature? No, so it has no lawfulness.

assassin, we aint all as far up the scale as you, as in being in the private or having as much knowledge, so sometime we have to beat them over the heads with their own policies/rules, my idea is to write to the CEO of the council and ask lots of questions about how these acts apply to us wo/men whilst for the time being remaining in honour, maybe do it in affidavit form, We have to try different things to see what results we get, im not 100% ready to just stop paying ct at the mo but its getting close

SS

And this is where you are going wrong SS, you only deal by affidavit which is non judicial and pre judicial and cannot go to court (High Court which are the only real courts) and if it did you would always win because any judge can only find in your favour, beats everything.

Here's a link to an interview with Minister Emoven - it's long, but it does give you some insight about the Community Trust, it's origins, objectives and the woman in propria persona.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu3z8SoqtPU

I have spoken with her a few times, but I am still on the fence with ULCT for now.

here are some positive comments on ULCT
https://forum.swaruu.org/viewtopic.php?id=1382

Here is a choice to make.
https://pics.me.me/living-real-private-universal-law-laws-of-god-creator-universe-22760502.png

Minister Emoven's posts on fartbook.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Minister-Emoven-101695624572635/posts/

'Minister Emoven posted a job. 24 April at 08:49 ·

You will be responsible for assets and property maintenance and repair. Immediate start and tax free pay through our Kindness Credits structure. Our prepaid credit package discharges up to 1200 a month in utilities and debt and also gives you cash in hand. Contact us now for flexible terms..'

In this YT vid in the comments section, I am asking a question that's all I have no proof.

In Truth We Trust w Minister Em Oven/Universal Law Community Trust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu3z8SoqtPU&lc=Ugy94RO6vl1_ANljvf54AaABAg.9NMoa3bYHs99NRBnX7HW3B

windows on the world possibly mentions this. If this is the we "buy any debt" and the trust .

For some reason i happened to catch most of that show,only to see if
he was spouting the same retoric as most weeks.
I have noticed how without exception he rubbishes everyone else's remidies
without evidence of his own. It would appear his greatest success which he
continually bangs on about is that he managed to get a couple of pages taken
down from the 'Crimestoppers' website.
To me this guy just wants to stroke his own not inconsiderable ego. You will notice
that the 2 almost regular guests have gone and are never mentioned.
I also mention that when he interviews anyone they cannot get more than a
couple of words in .
Last night he was also knocking the guy from the Observation Deck.
I believe Jason from RN also had problems with him in the past.
I met him briefly a few years back ,cant say i was impressed ,i dont trust him
at all.

Hello, well done daveiron, for spotting MarkW's show involving ULCT.
I did not much care for the description he gave, but there's truth in there too.
I am not certain that a deliberate scam was being attempted by ULCT at the start, now I think there are other influences
at work.
My experience the last few months has been this.
I connected with other members who were all good honest people, those I met or spoke to were holding the highest ideals, wishing to use the suggested techniques to free their comminities.
Then
I assigned consent for Council Tax liability to Em Oven, using the template letter to CEO of Council and the online form for someone moving in.

Then I exported my private conveyance permanently to Greece (only on DVLA form). I got documents from ULCT to 'prove ' conveyance was Trust property, had Indemnity in case of accident and got a certificate of roadworthiness.
While waiting for Trust Registration plates, I heard a couple of trust members had their conveyances stolen by police,
and they could not get them back.
At this point we put the conveyance into storage rather than use it and lose it.

Then I made several attempts to use the complex Kindness Credit claim forms to begin trading with other Trust members before trying to explain the Credit scheme to others as we were constantly urged to do. No attempt suceeded or was acknowledged. The web page devoted to it was out of date and blocked to any changes or correction.

Meanwhile, other Ministers were attempting to Restore Rights of use to government property that was for sale as per the instructions on the Fakebook group. Not only were these unsuccessful, but several people were jailed and charged
for kidnapping bailiffs. No help or remedy was given to them, despite their following all instructions.

At this point I rang one of the members I'd spoken to before, and discovered that many of the good and hardworking members had been kicked out for trying to improve ULCT structures to overcome the many problems caused, it seems,
by the Trustee not wishing to relinquish any control.


I have contacted all those to whom I have recommended ULCT. I don't think it is a cult, but several members have been treated badly, shamed, abused etc when not acting in ways suggested by the Trustee, so it may be turning in to one.

So, please fogive me, anyone who has joined on my suggestion.
Thank you all for your input on this, now I have to start repairing the damage!!
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Thank you urchinatheart for informing about your enlightening experiences.

Todate if you don't me asking - you don't have to answer if you don't want to. how are you getting on with council tax? I did notice some others are having serious problems now.

By all means please keep us informed as you progress, others I know who initially stated to me they were not interested started to ask questions,  but now I can show serious experiences of others.

It was on the surface something that appeared to give the best way forward yet, pity its turned out like this.

Thanks

LS

Many thanks for the update urchinatheart, sorry to hear this.
On the face of it it looked as if was a viable option,but then so did
WeRe Bank, i hope its not the case this time.

urchinatheart wrote: but there's truth in there too.
I am not certain that a deliberate scam was being attempted by ULCT at the start, now I think there are other influences
at work.

It does stand to reason if emoven was having success then those that really do control this whatever you want to call it, will not want to lose control, so no doubt THEY will have gone out of thier way to styfle this as much as possible.

Alot of poeple are now seeing the courts ignoring thier own rules, railroading all, & generally stealing (corruption) from all concerned.

I too am sorry to see this failing (if that is the correct expression here?).


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Thank you for asking. We got one letter informing us that our legal fiction names would remain liable for Council Tax and that unless the legal names paid the first instalment , the full yearly amount would become payable ,plus court fees of course. That was returned to sender, addressee moved out.
So far nothing else.It did not come from our local council but a place far away, a sort of bulk mail-out place.

thanks urchinatheart much appreciated.

LS

in light of what's been discussed above make of it what you will?

Emoven India Jedi knight of Universal Law Jurisdiction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpQkGNDTlEg

Sadly LS this is the same as the English one near the beginning of this
thread. It cuts off before the end and no conclusion.

LionsShare wrote:in light of what's been discussed above make of it what you will?

Emoven India Jedi knight of Universal Law Jurisdiction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpQkGNDTlEg

daveiron wrote:Sadly LS  this is the same as the English one near the beginning of this
thread. It cuts off before the end and no conclusion.

LionsShare wrote:in light of what's been discussed above make of it what you will?

Emoven India Jedi knight of Universal Law Jurisdiction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpQkGNDTlEg

Sadly DI too true, I wanted to inform all to make up thier minds as NO proof as far as I can see that emoven's trust system works. I am not saying she is a fraud just that all should becarful regarding joining her system.

She does speak certainly for me a lot of truth behind the b'cert', The only time I would consider joining her system is when & now after seeing all that's been discussed here, proof that it actually works & others are getting genuine results.

Also as I think I have stated in post(s) her methods should be questioned if anyone is planning on joining, she does I think give out clues without going to the nth degree of how to become a secured creditor as oppose as we are all now, unsecured.

Just as I have stated in utility posts that I think it may well come down to getting our own Trust Estate - the Trust stamp to go in the cashier's stamp place on the tear off slip.

LS

In light of the comments prior in this thread, by all means watch & what do you make of it?

Kindness Credit conversion Step 1 Taking my KC note to the shop.. backed by my 5 hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3gES08QhK4

Yes it all sounds good on the face of it,but i am perturbed by urchins post,
someone who i trust implicitly.
For me its a case of watch and wait.

too right , i think no more encouraging posts, its a scam, thats what I make of it.