how do I avoid paying tax????

by ltdon Wed May 29, 2019 1:02 pm

Started up a property company.

deal with serviced accommodations and properties.

don't wanna pay the government how do I avoid

by **Lopsum** Wed May 29, 2019 5:58 pm

Not really the sort of question we offer help with .

by handle Wed May 29, 2019 6:21 pm

interesting question. depends on the location of your properties.

by **LionsShare** Thu May 30, 2019 8:09 am

if you manage to find such a web site or excelent source of info please post it here! We would all love to know. cheers

by **daveiron** Thu May 30, 2019 9:10 am

Whilst I understand there is no law which states a man / woman must pay tax. What you are asking relates
to commerce & there the law is different. Your best option is to get a good accountant & also use your brain,
this will result in you paying a lot less tax.
Alternatively if you if you know the right people ,you could use the Google / Amazon / Starbucks method and
earn billions and pay virtualy feck all.

by **LionsShare** Thu May 30, 2019 11:29 am

daveiron wrote:Whilst I understand there is no law which states a man / woman must pay tax. What you are asking relates
to commerce & there the law is different. Your best option is to get a good accountant & also use your brain,
this will result in you paying a lot less tax.
Alternatively if you if you know the right people ,you could use the Google / Amazon / Starbucks method and
earn billions and pay virtualy feck all.

it may be called an 'unincorporated business organisation' aka 'pure trust' and 'common-law trust' that negates need to pay business and personal taxes.

https://youtu.be/TwXeL7i8P6w

This has been pointed put to me!

by **assassin** Fri May 31, 2019 2:11 am

If you have started a company then if it is registered you have consented to their system, look up the word regis.

by **Mrblue2015** Fri May 31, 2019 6:07 am

daveiron wrote:Alternatively if you if you know the right people ,you could use the Google / Amazon / Starbucks method and
earn billions and pay virtualy feck all.

by handle Fri May 31, 2019 8:23 pm

somehow don't think ltdon will be continuing with his post

by **LionsShare** Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:16 am

handle wrote:somehow don't think ltdon will be continuing with his post

pity.

by **Society of the Spectacle** Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:50 pm

If you have ever worked in the sex trade ,
you could offer to pay in Kind.

by **assassin** Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:14 pm

Is this time or length SOTS, you pay for many things by the inch.

by **daveiron** Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:42 pm

Its about time assassin that you went metric.

by handle Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:29 pm

interesting point lionshare about trusts.

you see, if the properties belong to a CHARITY then you cant keep the profits on the development. you must keep the surplus in the charity and/or apply for other charitable purposes. Otherwise trustees would be committing fraud.

disguised, so called ,"arms length" transactions selling charity assets to a company the trustee controls is also fraud. For example this could be done where the "third party" shareholder has a private arrangement to hold the shares "on trust" (aka secretly) for oneself but which not show on company house records.

Got that, Ltdon?

by **assassin** Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:20 pm

Ambidextrous Dave, I work in both.

One of the benefits of working in the Aviation industry on contracts as they are imperial.

by **Lopsum** Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:26 pm

i bet your missus gets upset when she needs a few in and only gets a few cm :/
how about make a loss or less than 7k per year ? that will work , no tax need be payed !

by OWtothelight Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:16 pm

assassin wrote:If you have started a company then if it is registered you have consented to their system, look up the word regis.

So if we de register, and just trade as a sole trader, then we have no contract and no tax payable on our earnings?

by **daveiron** Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:43 pm

Its not something i have looked into in any depth,but i understand
you need to start trading with others in 'the private' .
The way things are going with this reset ,its something we all should
be researching or else we will all be on just universal basic income.

Probably a good topic for a dedicated thread.

by **LionsShare** Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:12 pm

agree with DI.

I used to run my own Ltd Co, after several years trade & all taxes paid, its all about contracts, if registered then you agree to abide by thier rules. You can have a dormant Ltd CO & I would advise make it dormant from the start without a bank account unless you plan to trade? Ltd Co make dormant, no bank acc', SIC 99999 (dormant) & away you go, 1ce a year confirmation statement, NO tax return & think that's it. There may be more so as usual due diligance.

Does that help?

by OWtothelight Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:15 pm

LionsShare wrote:agree with DI.

I used to run my own Ltd Co, after several years trade & all taxes paid, its all about contracts, if registered then you agree to abide by thier rules. You can have a dormant Ltd CO & I would advise make it dormant from the start without a bank account unless you plan to trade? Ltd Co make dormant, no bank acc', SIC 99999 (dormant) & away you go, 1ce a year confirmation statement, NO tax return & think that's it. There may be more so as usual due diligance.

Does that help?

Yes it helps, but as DI says, being in the corporate is a dangerous place at the moment and getting more and more so. If we are signed up to their rules, even if not paying tax then we are subject to all new changes. There is the risk of the private assets, if you keep it private but you don't have to jump through the regulatory hoops they keep putting on every route we take, which ultimately costs money and time and in my profession, limits your ability to work, which is what they want.

I like the sound of the trust suggestion above that keeps it in common law. Will look into that. I am thinking that settling this years accounts, deregistering with HMRC, sending an affidavit to challenge their fraud and never signing up again may be the way to go?

by OWtothelight Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:04 pm

This video is gone, do you have the title of it so I can look it up elsewhere?

Thanks Smile

LionsShare wrote:
daveiron wrote:Whilst I understand there is no law which states a man / woman must pay tax. What you are asking relates
to commerce & there the law is different. Your best option is to get a good accountant & also use your brain,
this will result in you paying a lot less tax.
Alternatively if you if you know the right people ,you could use the Google / Amazon / Starbucks method and
earn billions and pay virtualy feck all.
it may be called an 'unincorporated business organisation' aka 'pure trust' and 'common-law trust' that negates need to pay business and personal taxes.

https://youtu.be/TwXeL7i8P6w

This has been pointed put to me!

by **LionsShare** Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:52 pm

OWtothelight wrote:This video is gone, do you have the title of it so I can look it up elsewhere?

Thanks

LionsShare wrote:
daveiron wrote:Whilst I understand there is no law which states a man / woman must pay tax. What you are asking relates
to commerce & there the law is different. Your best option is to get a good accountant & also use your brain,
this will result in you paying a lot less tax.
Alternatively if you if you know the right people ,you could use the Google / Amazon / Starbucks method and
earn billions and pay virtualy feck all.
it may be called an 'unincorporated business organisation' aka 'pure trust' and 'common-law trust' that negates need to pay business and personal taxes.

https://youtu.be/TwXeL7i8P6w

This has been pointed put to me!

No I don't but you could try any combination on yt, odysee etc of ' 'unincorporated business organisation' aka 'pure trust' and 'common-law trust' that negates need to pay business and personal taxes'

from USA but there are others:
How does a 'Common Law Constitutional Sovereign Pure Trust' protect you from the IRS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9X8rlkLJUE

by OWtothelight Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:48 pm

Thanks, I saw someone post elsewhere today that to negate self employed taxes you state you are freelance. I assume this goes along with not registering or deregistering.

LionsShare wrote:
OWtothelight wrote:This video is gone, do you have the title of it so I can look it up elsewhere?

Thanks

LionsShare wrote:
daveiron wrote:Whilst I understand there is no law which states a man / woman must pay tax. What you are asking relates
to commerce & there the law is different. Your best option is to get a good accountant & also use your brain,
this will result in you paying a lot less tax.
Alternatively if you if you know the right people ,you could use the Google / Amazon / Starbucks method and
earn billions and pay virtualy feck all.
it may be called an 'unincorporated business organisation' aka 'pure trust' and 'common-law trust' that negates need to pay business and personal taxes.

https://youtu.be/TwXeL7i8P6w

This has been pointed put to me!
No I don't but you could try any combination on yt, odysee etc of ' 'unincorporated business organisation' aka 'pure trust' and 'common-law trust' that negates need to pay business and personal taxes'

from USA but there are others:
How does a 'Common Law Constitutional Sovereign Pure Trust' protect you from the IRS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9X8rlkLJUE

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