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Post by mitch Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:33 pm

Is Notice of conditional acceptance still best way of handling this coercion?

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Post by daveiron Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:54 pm

I would def say yes, make sure in the NoCA you address the part in that
letter which references you fully understand the potential consequences.
To my mind that is coercion. Under no circumstancies resign.
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Post by pitano1 Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm

hI.
I received this E.M recently.

First of all ... watch the video: https://brandnewtube.com/watch/breaking-news-uk-government-breaching-their-own-public-health-control-of-disease-act-1984_vXMAg7BAkyEWWgm.html

He talks about the Public Health (Control of Diseases) Act 1984 ("1984"!!!!! How about that!!!)  ... and the fact that Section 45C was "used to mandate jabs for Care Workers ... and is proposed for National Holocaust Service Staff"

Here is Section 45C:

> (1)The appropriate Minister may by regulations make provision for the purpose of preventing, protecting against, controlling or providing a public health response to the incidence or spread of infection or contamination in England and Wales (whether from risks originating there or elsewhere).



F1Pt. 2A inserted (21.7.2008 for specified purposes, 1.4.2009 for the insertion, insofar as relating to E., of ss. 45A, 45C, 45D, 45E, 45F, 45P, 45Q, 45R, 45S and 45T, otherwise 6.4.2010 for E. and 26.7.2010 for W.) by Health and Social Care Act 2008 (c. 14), ss. 129, 170(1)(b); S.I. 2009/462, art. 3; S.I. 2010/708, art. 6(a) (with Sch. 2); S.I. 2010/1547, art. 2(e) (with Sch. 1)

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> (2)The power in subsection (1) may be exercised—
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> (a)in relation to infection or contamination generally or in relation to particular forms of infection or contamination, and
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> (b)so as to make provision of a general nature, to make contingent provision or to make specific provision in response to a particular set of circumstances.
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> (3)Regulations under subsection (1) may in particular include provision—
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> (a)imposing duties on registered medical practitioners or other persons to record and notify cases or suspected cases of infection or contamination,
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> (b)conferring on local authorities or other persons functions in relation to the monitoring of public health risks, and
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> (c)imposing or enabling the imposition of restrictions or requirements on or in relation to persons, things or premises in the event of, or in response to, a threat to public health.
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> (4)The restrictions or requirements mentioned in subsection (3)(c) include in particular—
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> (a)a requirement that a child is to be kept away from school,
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> (b)a prohibition or restriction relating to the holding of an event or gathering,
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> (c)a restriction or requirement relating to the handling, transport, burial or cremation of dead bodies or the handling, transport or disposal of human remains, and
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> (d)a special restriction or requirement.
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> (5)The power in subsection (1) is subject to section 45D.
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> (6)For the purposes of this Part—
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> (a)a “ special restriction or requirement ” means a restriction or requirement which can be imposed by a justice of the peace by virtue of section 45G(2), 45H(2) or 45I(2), but
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> (b)a restriction or requirement mentioned in subsection (4)(a), (b) or (c) is not to be regarded as a special restriction or requirement.]
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> Textual Amendments
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> F1Pt. 2A inserted (21.7.2008 for specified purposes, 1.4.2009 for the insertion, insofar as relating to E., of ss. 45A, 45C, 45D, 45E, 45F, 45P, 45Q, 45R, 45S and 45T, otherwise 6.4.2010 for E. and 26.7.2010 for W.) by Health and Social Care Act 2008 (c. 14), ss. 129, 170(1)(b); S.I. 2009/462, art. 3; S.I. 2010/708, art. 6(a) (with Sch. 2); S.I. 2010/1547, art. 2(e) (with Sch. 1)

And yes ... it does say ... right at the top "The appropriate Minister may by regulations make provision for the purpose of preventing, protecting against, controlling or providing a public health response to the incidence or spread of infection or contamination in England and Wales (whether from risks originating there or elsewhere)"

           The "appropriate Minister" being - of course - the one who looks like a ginourmous baked bean on legs.



BUT BUT BUT BUT ... as the guy in the video SO RIGHTLY SAYS ... if you read a little further ... down to 45E, you read what is  defined by "medical treatment":

> [F145EMedical treatment
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> (1)Regulations under section 45B or 45C may not include provision requiring a person to undergo medical treatment.
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> (2)“ Medical treatment ” includes vaccination and other prophylactic treatment. ]
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Post by flyingfish Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:18 am

They're saying ""and the legislation is passed", meaning "if".  I think everyone knows that the existing law doesn't allow mandatory vaccinations. I'm not sure what's under consideration, strictly speaking if they say "get the vaccine or your sacked" that's not mandatory vaccination, it's discrimination against people making that choice.  And isn't this already in place in other jobs?

Anyone know what "the legislation" they're referring to actually is, and can it be seen in draft form?

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Post by pitano1 Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:31 am

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/22/section/45E
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Post by flyingfish Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:27 pm

Sorry I must have been unclear.  I wasn't asking about the existing legislation that doesn't allow mandatory vaccinations, I was asking if anyone knows any detail about the new legislation they're expecting (or hoping) to be passed.  The legislation that, if passed, would allow them to sack someone who declines vaccination.

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