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purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I have heard a lot of different ways to discharge energy rates or council tax.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:Could one route be to pay all by credit card and then to use the 3 letters to OCs to discharge the debt? Or is that morally wrong? These days to get a credit card you can just click a few buttons online, no signatures (surely that is fraudulent)?

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I've looked into endorsement and A4V also for energy and also changing the meters but heard that they still illegally try to get in your house and change to prepay meters.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:What do you think? It is all early days so haven't been able to attempt anything as of yet.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I've also seen that CT is inescapable unless you are renting and self employed. Some people have even been made bankrupt or lost their homes due to the council mafia. Is that right?

LionsShare wrote:

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I have heard a lot of different ways to discharge energy rates or council tax.

Would you care to share in more detail what you have learnt as it may be different to what others here know or could be if interest?

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:Could one route be to pay all by credit card and then to use the 3 letters to OCs to discharge the debt? Or is that morally wrong? These days to get a credit card you can just click a few buttons online, no signatures (surely that is fraudulent)?

What you must remember the 'system' is completely bent, corrupt, rigged & its in your face, so THEIR attitude is 'what you gonna do abawt it?

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I've looked into endorsement and A4V also for energy and also changing the meters but heard that they still illegally try to get in your house and change to prepay meters.

When using A4V what are you accepting for value exactly & it is specific? & Yes regarding your comments on the meters.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:What do you think? It is all early days so haven't been able to attempt anything as of yet.

Good as until you get the 'knowledge' don't do awt that could be detrimental to your well being. Use due diligance & research as much.....

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I've also seen that CT is inescapable unless you are renting and self employed. Some people have even been made bankrupt or lost their homes due to the council mafia. Is that right?

Yes c'tax is inescapeable unless you get special dispensation from the council because of some reason(s). Some claim to have beaten it but have not shown how. Yes some have been made bankrupt, just about everyone will lose/has lost big time that have tried to take on those b'stards.

So the overall message is research & ask questions as much as you can to get answers, remember people here will have a certain amount of knowledge from experience & off others elsewhere, overall becareful.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I don't think I have anything more than what is on here. I've just been watching goodf videos regarding how the energy companies operate, and it would seem that changing the meters and asking them to collect is a viable way. I doubt they ever come to collect them so you could easily say, "i've changed the meters, please come and collect" when you haven't changed them at all. I have been in some telegram groups whereby people say that they have paid via endorsing the cheque or A4V - some say that it works, others say it doesn't. That is written about on this forum, so I am sure you already know about it as you have been in many of the threads I have read.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:RE: council tax, people on various groups claim to have beaten it but have only really avoided it for a few months. If they rent then it is a lot easier to not be hassled. So a lot of renters are giving mortgage payers advice when it isn't the same. Some friends of mine claim they just stopped paying and return letters to sender. I imagine it will catch up with them, hence I wanted to pay it on CC and then get it back via 3 NoCA letters.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:RE: A4V - I would be accepting 4 value what the energy company think I owe them, for example, £100 for gas a month and/or accepting the council tax for value they think i owe them, eg £100 per month. I am going to attend the youandyourcash seminar on A4V first.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:There is a lot of info out there and it seems lately more than ever people are trying things that have been tried and don't work. There also seems to be a lot of braggers or think they beat the system when the council haven't written to them in a few months...

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I will keep researching and asking questions, forgive my lack of knowledge, gotta start somewhere!

daveiron wrote:I dont know if this may be of use to you,

LionsShare wrote:

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I don't think I have anything more than what is on here. I've just been watching goodf videos regarding how the energy companies operate, and it would seem that changing the meters and asking them to collect is a viable way. I doubt they ever come to collect them so you could easily say, "i've changed the meters, please come and collect" when you haven't changed them at all. I have been in some telegram groups whereby people say that they have paid via endorsing the cheque or A4V - some say that it works, others say it doesn't. That is written about on this forum, so I am sure you already know about it as you have been in many of the threads I have read.

Yes it seems for most you are correct over the meters

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:RE: council tax, people on various groups claim to have beaten it but have only really avoided it for a few months. If they rent then it is a lot easier to not be hassled. So a lot of renters are giving mortgage payers advice when it isn't the same. Some friends of mine claim they just stopped paying and return letters to sender. I imagine it will catch up with them, hence I wanted to pay it on CC and then get it back via 3 NoCA letters.

Your ideas over c'tax discharge may work, I don't know as have not & will not try ATM. That is due to lack of knowledge but suspect If I tried somat I would be railroaded anyway, THEY don't want to lose their cash value or cash price income.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:RE: A4V - I would be accepting 4 value what the energy company think I owe them, for example, £100 for gas a month and/or accepting the council tax for value they think i owe them, eg £100 per month. I am going to attend the youandyourcash seminar on A4V first.

After viewing youandyourcash that way of A4V is probably more over company to company (I don't know as have not seen his seminar), what I'm on about is in the public in relation to utilities, speeding, parking tickets etc. Regarding your notion of what you are accepting for value is not quite right for the eg of £100. Think about bartering (consideration) & what 'value' might mean. Research the difference between 'value' & 'cash value/price' Remember its just a concept from thought. A4V from my research should not be used anyway for tear off slips so long as the correct slip is attached.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:There is a lot of info out there and it seems lately more than ever people are trying things that have been tried and don't work. There also seems to be a lot of braggers or think they beat the system when the council haven't written to them in a few months...

I agree.

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:I will keep researching and asking questions, forgive my lack of knowledge, gotta start somewhere!

Good glad to see you are starting from the correct POV, & don't worry I was once (lack of knowledge) where you probably are now. If you have more questions by all means ask!

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:Please check my last post in "advice please." I seem to have made a small error already, easily rectifiable though, just need a pointer, as I have to send another DSAR!

purplesproutingbroccoli1 wrote:Then might try changing my meters - I see you pay by endorsement? How has that worked out for you?