how to talk in court

by Spike Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:41 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkgCM7gQkAw

by Jinxer Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:27 pm

An excellent video. I would love to be in the public gallery when this was used. It would be so much easier to do yourself after seeing how it's done in practice. If anyone who knows how this works has ever a court case coming up and knows how to use this strategy please give me a heads up so I could come and watch it in action. The more people that can witness for themselves how this works the better. Once I saw this working for myself it would give me so much more confidence to try it on behalf of friends and stand with them in court.

by **LionsShare** Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:28 am

without doubt an excellent vid', may be will have to appear in the not too distance future over gas/leccy, have pondered for quite a while how to do this & Steve tells it quite well.

Those acts Steve refers to are are quite short:

the 1882
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1882/9/pdfs/ukpga_18820009_en.pdf

1868
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1868/37/pdfs/ukpga_18680037_en.pdf

only 2 + 4 pages respectivly

by Tiggy Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:14 pm

LionsShare wrote:without doubt an excellent vid', may be will have to appear in the not too distance future over gas/leccy, have pondered for quite a while how to do this & Steve tells it quite well.

Those acts Steve refers to are are quite short:

the 1882
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1882/9/pdfs/ukpga_18820009_en.pdf

1868
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1868/37/pdfs/ukpga_18680037_en.pdf

only 2 + 4 pages respectivly

What's this in relation to ? The 1868 Act was repealed by the 1882 Act and all that's left of the 1882 Act (unless you're in Northern Ireland) is this:

2 Documents printed under superintendence of Stationery Office receivable in evidence.

Where any enactment, whether passed before or after the passing of this Act, provides that a copy of any Act of Parliament, proclamation, order, regulation, rule, warrant, circular, list, gazette, or document shall be conclusive evidence, or be evidence, or have any other effect, when purporting to be printed by the Government Printer, or the Queen’s Printer, [F1or the Queen’s Printer for Scotland,]or a printer authorised by Her Majesty, or otherwise under Her Majesty’s authority, whatever may be the precise expression used, such copy shall also be conclusive evidence, or evidence, or have the said effect (as the case may be) if it purports to be printed under the superintendence or authority of Her Majesty’s Stationery Office.

by **LionsShare** Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:27 pm

Hi tiggy,

just thought would reference for others what the presenter talked about in the video, that's all. Its up to those who try to use it to research it properly & yes me as well.

by Awoken2 Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:36 pm

There's some good information on this here.

https://exodus200.wordpress.com/step-1a-understanding-cestui-que-vie-act-1666/

by Jinxer Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:38 pm

It would be nice then if Steve or anyone else who has actually already used this act to come on here and explain to us thicko's (mainly meaning me) how this part of the act that's left is used to help us.
It's better if going to Court to be prepared for what they will throw at you, instead of looking like a blithering fool like I did the time I went to try and stop Western Power gaining entry to my premises and I had already let them in before to take my electric meter out, but they still got a warrant to come in and take the actual feed out.
The only satisfaction for me was after they dug up the road and disconnected the supply, was the look on their faces when I turned all the electric back on, the main guy in charge was right peed off and the Police who were in attendance all started laughing. I did get a letter from them after addressed to the occupier asking me to pay around 9 and half grand for the unpaid electric that was used before we owned the building and the cost of digging up the road. That got filed in the bin, they then must of got my name from land registry and sent the same letter in my name, then I think my son wrote back to them and invited them to seek remedy at court and to let the court decide if we were responsible for electricity used before we owned the building. I haven't heard anymore and that must be about 4 years ago now.

by **LionsShare** Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:47 pm

Jinxer hi,

how did you manage to turn on the supply if meter & cable out?

by Jinxer Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:08 pm

I owned the building next door which they didn't know and run the supply from there. Plus we had a generator for the building to use as backup.

by **LionsShare** Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:07 am

Nice 1 well done, well thought out!

by Jinxer Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:12 pm

We peed the Magistrate off when we were in Court. My son refused to give his name and just said he was a representative of the building the same as the other guy was a representative of the electric company. It was a bit chaotic to be fair and because we didn't talk to them the way they expected us to the Magistrate just issued the warrant. We never even had a meter in the property we made them take that out months before but the Magistrate said they had the right to come in to check the wire as that was there property. It went on for a while just arguing really and the Mag sort of lost his temper and just issued it.
I even paid some guys witness surcharge I think its called who had been arrested stealing food from sainsburys so he didn't have to spend the day in jail.

by **andybreck** Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:52 pm

Jinxer wrote:We peed the Magistrate off when we were in Court. My son refused to give his name and just said he was a representative of the building the same as the other guy was a representative of the electric company. It was a bit chaotic to be fair and because we didn't talk to them the way they expected us to the Magistrate just issued the warrant. We never even had a meter in the property we made them take that out months before but the Magistrate said they had the right to come in to check the wire as that was there property. It went on for a while just arguing really and the Mag sort of lost his temper and just issued it.
I even paid some guys witness surcharge I think its called who had been arrested stealing food from sainsburys so he didn't have to spend the day in jail.

nice one jinxer

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