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Post by LionsShare Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:00 pm

just thought I'd post reminders of vids that are important to the cause so others don't forget or provide info for new comers:

Your gas, electric and water should be free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxfJjOK2w8

court case win
http://tapnewswire.com/2015/04/court-case-win-against-british-gas-for-bills-paid-through-bill-of-exchange/

How to Stop British Gas Warrants - this should be I think the missing vid from the court case above
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2kttz0eYEg

Paying bills by endorsing the Giro-credit slip using Postage stamps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A73YJn42fGM

start of the holly grail
Gas, Water & Electric are FREE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkZrzEHKBqI
PAUL WEBSTER IS GAS & ELECTRIC FREE?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHnXZzI-2-A
MUST SEE: PAUL WEBSTER & KEVIN MARK ON UTILITY WARRANTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7upu8i9bSpY
2006 Gas Prepay Meter Regs:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/2011/pdfs/uksi_20062011_en.pdf
2006 Electric Prepay Meter Regs:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/2010/pdfs/uksi_20062010_en.pdf
CCA 1974 sect 123:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1974/39/section/123

HOW TO PAY BY ENDORSEMENT trilogy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QnQerNu_v8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foL_Fzx66Mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oMxK78gsec

Utility Template SAR
https://goodf.forumotion.com/t3578-utility-template-sar

E ON EXPOSED PAYING BY ENDORSEMENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f6sQx6Kh38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DiO1by_v0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K-1q_Tv9es

1882 Bills of Exchange, Tender, Payment, Charge, Discharge, JGC & BGC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2jEv1vxFxA

as an aside:
Promissory note 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELHHNldQIMc
Ten Pounds of Nothing Does Not Discharge a Debt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3urnu4BfDbU
How to create your own Promissory Notes - Michael Tellinger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbku5XULgIA

don't forget:
https://www.chequeandcredit.co.uk/cheque-clearers/other-clearings/credit-clearing-and-bank-giro-credits

Bank giro credits can also be found in the back of chequebooks and are used by customers to pay cash or cheques into their own bank accounts. In addition, they are used by banks to collect donations for charity appeals such as Children in Need.

A joint giro credit is one that has been issued by a biller and it can be used to pay a bill either at a bank, in which case it will be cleared through the inter-bank credit clearing, or at a branch of the Post Office.

Like a BGC, it must be accompanied by cash or cheque. I think this has been put in to confuse it never used to say this here before. see inserted image below

The joint giro credit is addressed to Santander (UK) plc and has the words “TRANSCASH” printed on it, as well as the words “bank giro credit” and the money mark logo.

As of 2018, joint giros are being phased out as Santander does not offer new joint giro accounts any longer. Any institution now wishing to use the Post Office as a bill paying facility has to include a bar code on either the statement or the BGC itself. As a result there is no need for the joint giro code line, Post Office bill payments are now automated at the counter. don't forget!

It is the responsibility of the Post Office to get the joint giro and the cash value and/or cheque to their sponsoring bank, which in turn will put the transaction into the clearings.this is if you pay over the counter

this image is the best i can get but it is truncated slightly to the rite

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Post by LionsShare Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:42 pm

here is evidence please read about that bit in the post above: like a BGC it must be accompanied by cash or cheque, they ARE definatly out to confuse now even telling LIES. Below is an old version start reading "bank giro credits..." you don't see it there do you? Off for a beer - nite nite.

I like to save old versions you never know when....

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Post by LionsShare Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:03 am

Handle hi,

in all 3 it does say a BGC must be accompanied with cash or cheque.

JGC only in the 1st put up does it say must be accompanied with cash or cheque.
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Post by daveiron Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:08 am

So was I at first reading, Read it again and you see they refer to a bank giro credit ,also a JOINT giro credit.
As usual its all in the wording.
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Post by batglin Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:11 am

Many thanks, ionsShare for the links you sent me. As you can gather, I'm still going through them. Absolutely riveting, better than any bollocks on TV, mind you, I haven't had a TV for about 5 years so wouldn't know the extent of the propaganda being spewed on channels these days. Kind regards

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Post by Mrblue2015 Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:09 pm

Great posts LS, and appreciate your efforts!

If it’s not already, make sure it’s a ‘sticky’ ie stays at the top of the Utilities section. Lops might be able to help you there Smile
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Post by LionsShare Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:16 pm

TBH I may develop a new version of this as there is now more info to add, I should explain the process better & keep things simpler. That would then be the 'sticky'. Cheers Mr.Blue Very Happy


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Post by Mrblue2015 Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:28 pm

Sounds great!
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Post by LionsShare Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:54 pm

good watch, would have to modify for use here, possible use SAR under GDPR2018:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOcIGt6cOgg&t=607s

MRBlue, would the above vid be of interest to you or anyone when using SARs?    Smile

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Post by arc77 Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:15 pm

Hi, what does one do if the council says they no longer issue giro credit slips? They say that this is no longer a payment option...

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Post by LionsShare Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:48 pm

arc77 wrote:Hi, what does one do if the council says they no longer issue giro credit slips? They say that this is no longer a payment option...
Please elaborate?

What were/are you having 'giro credit slips' for? Also what type of 'giro credit slips' are you on about?

Its true a certain type of 'giro credit slips' is no longer used for new accounts.
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Post by arc77 Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:51 pm

Sorry, as I was wanting to pay by endorsement, but my local council/utility companies state they no longer issue joint giro credit slips/cheques and I can only pay via debit/credit card or cash at the post office. Are there alternative ways of transferring by endorsement to put my domestic tariff to 0, without a cheque drawn on a third party?

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Post by LionsShare Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:09 pm

that tear off slip at the bottom of a utility bill even without 'transcash' logo for joint giro is still a cheque.

https://goodf.forumotion.com/t5119-deciding-what-to-do#34299

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Post by LionsShare Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:34 pm

looks like the credit and cheque clearing company has gone & so has the website with the defined distinction between a normal & a joint giro credit slip

I've tried for the last few days to get a definition, all there is now is what's further up, joint giro its gone!  Mad

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