Claiming your name

by Awake Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:49 pm

Hi guys I am 24 years old - glad to have found this family ! How can I gain control of my legal person ? I have been looking for uk based information so thank you guys!

by Waffle Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:02 pm

Hey Awake,

Good question, your person has different forms and you don't want to be the legal owner of it.

NAME is more like a state agency and the NAME is the organisational symbols for that person.

Then you have first name, second name, SURNAME. Your true name is first and second name ONLY, the surname is not yours. If you are using it it should be styled SURNAME, First name, Second name.

To take a larger amount of control over your NAME stop getting involved in contracts and learn about equity, you are the settlor and beneficiary of that person and should be in full control, but someone forgot to tell us all whats going on, so its up to us to teach each other and ourselves.

Trust law, equity, should grant you more control over your beneficial interests in your trusts and estates.....

by Awake Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:12 pm

Thank you very much ! I will study Trust law , equity - any recommended sources? I will Also download the ebook
Am I correct to think that without being the beneficiary and settler of the person one would str not be able to discharge claims etc

by Waffle Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:29 pm

If your not the beneficiary and settlor then you are in legal world. Once the settlor has executed the trust the settlor is then out of the picture unless the settlor names himself/herself as beneficiary or trustee (do not be a trustee).

Alistair Hudson is a good place to start

http://www.alastairhudson.com/podcasts/E&T%20Mixed%20Podcasts/Hudson-Equity&Trusts-PodcastsList.htm

by Awake Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:41 pm

Great I will start on this !

by Awake Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:02 pm

I have seen videos on YouTube about people accessing TDA accounts - am I correct In Saying that without changing your "status" in other words being the beneficiary And settlor you are potentially committing fraud ? I'm going to be studying trusts and equity

by Waffle Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:10 pm

There is nothing to correct apart from your mindset, they may be talking about correcting their status under the UCC becoming a secured party creditor. You already are the beneficiary and settlor, you just don't know it yet.

by Guest Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:39 pm

Hi guys

Awake - it's a long road with no immediate fix. Like Waffle says it's about attitude. Just don't be impatient and impetuous.

The first thing that will help you re: status perception is to know that as soon as you receive an 'offer' to contract from the legal world you have to write back (via posh-post) within 72 hours to rebut their presumption of your status. They presume you to be the legal person, put them right.

If you want to try the UCC route make sure you FULLY understand it before filing. i've been looking at all this stuff for 2-3 years and the only thing i fully understand is if you get it wrong you're toast!

Try Troy's vids - not really about equity or trusts so much, but a good place to get some good general basics.

Also Steve Mccrae - he covers matters similar to TDA and very knowledgeable.

Cheers!

by Awake Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:58 pm

Thank you very much waffle! Wow!! I get what you mean by I don't need to correct anything - I just have to act in honour ! Need to learn how to remain in honour ! I don't need to run around chasing trusts etc

Thank you iamani !! I've noted the sources - been watxhing Troy too!

Thank you

by Ausk Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:53 pm

Suggest that you research adminstration of the legal person.

A bloke in Aus I listen to on a Tuedsay night on RAT FM who seems to have a lot of expereince in the court system, says there is a way of acting and appearing as the benfiricary of the legal name and at the same time making the state, the administrator or trustee if thinking in terms of trusts.

www.knowyourightsgroup.com

by Candor Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:16 pm

Thanks for that Ausk, I got a 502 gateway error on that link, any chance you can check it again.

Ta

by 1saberwow Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:57 pm

Try. www.knowyourrightsgroup.com see if this works.

by Awake Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:37 pm

not working for me neither

by 1saberwow Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:07 pm

Sorry about that. Try www.knowyourrightsgroup.com.au and this time i have tried it snd it works as i have gotten onto their page just now.

by 7tt7 Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:43 pm

1saberwow wrote:Sorry about that. Try www.knowyourrightsgroup.com.au and this time i have tried it snd it works as i have gotten onto their page just now.

ah that better
thank's

by 7tt7 Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:53 pm

1saberwow wrote:Sorry about that. Try www.knowyourrightsgroup.com.au and this time i have tried it snd it works as i have gotten onto their page just now.

thanks for link i watched it. 2 govs in au amazing an eye opener for sure

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