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Post by assassin Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:43 pm

What is this tactic? its the witholding of evidence and while most of us know this has happened for a while, the current police investigation by the Met into two collapsed trials of rape cases has exposed this tactic and put it into the public domain for everyone to see, and we all need to be aware of this dirty tactic as it can make the difference between people found guilty of offences they have not committed, so how does this happen.

When the po-lice investigate a crime the procedure is for them to submit ALL of the evidence to the CPS for a charging decision, and in many cases they are NOT submitting all of this evidence to the CPS and by witholding this evidence they are leading the CPS into making decisions to charge people with offences they have not committed, and to a large extent they are acting as judge and jury instead of submitting this evidence to the CPS and often it is used to cover up illegal po-lice actions, particularly where the po-lice assault people they unlawfully arrest and need to cover up their unlawful actions. Evidence that is submitted is only that which the po-lice feel is in the best interests of getting a prosecution, which means only incriminationg evidence and any evidence which casts doubt on a suspect and can show their innocence is witheld and often deleted, and that can take many forms.

This is already well known about as previous official investigations have revealed that the po-lice employ these tactics and it is well documented, and in some cases these documents are in the public domain and we can all view them; so if it is already known about then why hasn't action been taken? because it always comes back to one simple thing "confidence in the po-lice" and nobody in any sort of perceived authority wants to undermine the po-lice in the eyes of the public and that includes both the very powerful civil servants and Governments. Here we have the smoking gun, civil servants and Governments know it is happening with alarming regularity and choose to do nothing and claim it is in the public interest not to undermine confidence in the po-lice.

What can people do to protect themselves?

In the first instance you say NOTHING and by saying nothing I mean nothing, never confirm your name or address and straight away you have shown the po-lice are acting on an assumption, they can only hold you for 24 hours without charging you, or applying for a warrant to hold you for longer, and have the evidence to submit to an alleged court, and you want this evidence which you can obtain, they cannot deny this evidence exists as they have aplied to the court for a warrant to hold you for longer.

You have the option of a solicitor, take the option, even if you get a duty solicitor you can get them working for you at this stage and you get them to work for you.
When you have a private consultation with a solicitor the po-lice have to provide statements to the solicitor and these are usually hand written where those making them are sat alongside each other when making them, in most cases they will be virtually identical as they openly discuss what happened and ensure their hand written statements match each other, or in simple terms they lie in these statements.
When you have a consultation with a solicitor it must be private, but the po-lice often give you a room with either a CCTV camera installed and this usually has audio recording so not only can they see you when you have your private consultation, they can also hear you, and hastily made phone calls are made using personal mobile phones as any telephone call on a po-lice telephone is audio recorded, and they know this. Suddenly notes are made of where the po-lice went wrong and these are used against you.

ALWAYS ENSURE ANY INTERVIEW ROOM USED BY YOUR SOLICITOR HAS NO CCTV OR AUDIO RECORDING DEVICE.

When a hand written statement is presented it will be on a "Witness Statement" form which is exactly the same form you may have used if you have ever been a witness to an incident and it is important to make detailed notes via your duty or other solicitor. Each witness statement form MUST contain the name and the number of the arresting constable if they make the arrest, or the name and number of any constable who was there and was either involved in the arrest, or witnessed the incident; it must contain the date and time of the incident and this is crucial.
At this point you get your solicitor to take photographic evidence of each statement page and E-mail it to their computer at work, THIS IS CRUCIAL AS OFTEN THESE STATEMENTS DISAPPEAR AND ARE NEVER DISCLOSED and these statements are severely flawed, but you have evidence of both their existance, phone records of your duty solicitor E-mailing them, and evidence of the solicitors server receiving an incoming E-mail as well as the contents of these documents.
Witness statement forms must be filled out in a certain way, and this is that each line must be filled so that nothing else can be inserted after the fact, the text must be close enough so that other words CANNOT BE INSERTED between the text, and at the end of the statement it must be initialled so nothing else can be added to the end of the statement; so always check these things and if a statement has every other line filled in, is not dated, and is not initialed at the end of the statement then you can be assured they are not bothered about it as they know it will disappear.
It is these statements which are the evidence to submit to the CPS to bring charges, if they are flawed then the case is flawed.

Following this there will be another document submitted to the court and this is usually called the "statement of key evidence" and it is crucial you obtain this as this is always flawed and contradicts their earlier hand written statements, it is often totally different to the hand written statements you had seen earlier.
Following this you will get a typed statement from every constable concerned, and here the detail is important, it will be totally different from the original hand written statements and they will never be disclosed and often their existance will be denied, but you have proof of their existance, and by not disclosing them the po-lice have knowingly broken the rules of disclosure and this is enough to have any case thrown out.
Here comes the detail, if you are arrested on trumped up charges you always look at the times on both sets of statements, if the po-lice are working night shift and you are arrested at lets say 3am on the 10th, you are transported to custody and arrive at 3.45am, the dates become important as they have to write out a statement and if the hand written statement is 2 pages long and is written on the 10th, how long does it take them to write out and get to a most likely centralised custody? next they have to type out a much longer statement and can they actually do this?

Let me explain, you need to get your solicitor to get the working times and hours of all constables at least a week prior to the arrest, and a week after the arrest. Often it may be the last shift a constable works before having a couple of days off, therefore if they work until 6 am on the 10th, then have two days off, it is most unlikely they can produce both a hand written statement and a totally differing typed statement of several pages if they finish at 6am and then have a couple of days off, and if both statements are dated on the same day then you have fraud proven by their own hand, particularly if both statements are dated on the same day and their working hours show something different. Next there is the call log, if they are called out to an incident and it takes up 90 minutes they are asking people to believe they have produced these statements in less than 90 minutes.

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Post by Mobo Sun May 14, 2023 10:31 am

One question, if you refuse to give your name to the Police, then they say you can't have a Solicitor,  is that true? what do you advice please?

Also they have refused me medical treatment with out my name,
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Post by daveiron Sun May 14, 2023 1:30 pm

Personally i would not give a name ,either remain silent or just say
'Rice v Connelly 1966'. The first thing they say if arrested is 'you have the
right to remain silent'.

Once you start talking ,they have you where they want you.

If you  require medical treatment just keep repeating that.

This is something you should never forget;

Each sworn constable is an independent
legal official and each police officer has
personal liability for their actions or inaction.
The chief officer of the force to which the
constable is attached also has a level of
corporate responsibility.

Link to the above quote;
https://www.polfed.org/media/14239/the-office-of-constable-with-links-2018.pdf
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Post by assassin Mon May 15, 2023 4:42 am

They cannot deny you laeful or legal representation and this is enshrined in law, if they refuse then get the name of the cu*tstable responsible and report them as this is a serious offence and emplopy a specialist claims solicitor or company as this is also large claim territory.

They cannot refuse medical treatment either and if they apply this sort of duress this needs reporting to the IPOC and making very public for all to see, particularly in the locl area as this constitutes torture and assault.
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Post by Mobo Mon May 15, 2023 9:34 am

I'm greatful to you both 👍
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Post by Mobo Mon May 15, 2023 9:44 am

daveiron wrote:Personally i would not give a name ,either remain silent or just say
'Rice v Connelly 1966'. The first thing they say if arrested is 'you have the
right to remain silent'.

I just took at look at this case law to but it's say if not under arrest but does it work if you are under arrest

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Once start talking ,they have you where they want you.

If you  require medical treatment just keep repeating that.

This is something you should never forget;

Each sworn constable is an independent
legal official and each police officer has
personal liability for their actions or inaction.
The chief officer of the force to which the
constable is attached also has a level of
corporate responsibility.

Link to the above quote;
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Post by daveiron Mon May 15, 2023 10:05 am

It works whether under arrest or not.
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Post by Mobo Mon May 15, 2023 10:08 am

daveiron wrote:It works whether under arrest or not.  
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