Search
 
 

Display results as :
 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Licence Revoked
by assassin Today at 7:20 pm

» Non-limited Business Question
by assassin Today at 7:15 pm

» Lloyds CreditCard - Northampton Court Claim Form received.
by Tiggy Today at 6:47 pm

» WeRe bank
by QUEENISABELLA Today at 5:29 pm

» Boats & Ships
by actinglikeabanker Today at 5:12 pm

» Letter 1 response - CCA 1974 Fact Sheet
by sam66 Today at 4:34 pm

» HAS-THE-WOOL-BEEN-PULLED-OVER-YOUR-EYES?
by 7tt7 Today at 4:25 pm

» Cabot offer
by MBE2017 Today at 3:57 pm

» Parsons Green - most pathetic false flag ever?
by mitch Today at 3:51 pm

» ok so i frist to post here, a way to move froward
by Tiggy Today at 2:34 pm

» Wim Hof
by mitch Today at 12:16 pm

» Land Registry
by Jinxer Today at 2:43 am

» can you wait till 2021?
by actinglikeabanker Yesterday at 11:46 pm

» remedy for P.C.N/COUNCIL TAX
by iamani Yesterday at 8:34 pm

» You Tube Convertor
by Society of the Spectacle Yesterday at 7:20 pm

» UK Column
by ceylon Yesterday at 6:53 pm

» SUBJECT ACESS REQUEST
by Tiggy Yesterday at 3:19 pm

» Cabot Financial Ltd
by Tiggy Yesterday at 3:18 pm

» New Alternative letters for DCA's ( acting as agents)
by daveiron Yesterday at 2:36 pm

» Lowell & Cohen Cramer - Directions Questionnaire Received
by andyb93 Yesterday at 12:22 pm

» The Ledger Bait, Dead Men Have No Rights Justinian Deception Channel and ROHAN
by Society of the Spectacle Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:37 pm

» New/old Member
by Society of the Spectacle Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:12 pm

» Hierachy
by iamani Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:02 pm

» Reality chat with peter howard and company
by Lopsum Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:55 pm

» 911 Alchemy
by pitano1 Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:00 pm

» Statement from Barclaycard
by Tiggy Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:17 pm

» In plain sight.... Battleship.
by Awoken2 Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:00 pm

» HEAL YOURSELF natural remedies to all illness
by Ausk Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:26 am

» V.Important
by assassin Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:15 am

» Funds Delivered! What You Mean We Do What We Say!
by Tom Bombadil Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:34 pm

» RFID - corporations rule OK
by Lopsum Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:17 pm

» Are they RELATED, Memes and Other Lookalikes and Coincidences.
by actinglikeabanker Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:07 pm

» New Alternative Letters for Original lenders (Bank / Credit Cards
by daveiron Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:03 pm

» Cassini
by actinglikeabanker Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:10 pm

» tv licence
by pitano1 Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:19 pm

» Invisibility cloak with image projection capability
by Society of the Spectacle Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:16 am

» hmrc self assessment question???
by iamani Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:54 am


SMART METERS GIGANTIC COCK UP

View previous topic View next topic Go down

SMART METERS GIGANTIC COCK UP

Post by jss64 on Sat May 06, 2017 4:26 pm

From the Telegraph today.

Millions of smart meters may need replacing due to IT blunder.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/millions-of-smart-meters-may-need-replacing-due-to-it-blunder/ar-BBANnrW?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout


Millions of smart meters installed in British households under the Government's flagship scheme may need to be replaced due to an IT bungle.

For the first time major energy suppliers have admitted that some of the 8 million "first generation" smart meters fitted in households are incompatible with a new national communications network, which links their systems to the devices.

A row has broken out after the government last night denied that the meters would need to be replaced.

Estimates show a worst case scenario in which every smart meter has to be replaced would add as much as £100 to every UK household's energy bill, although sources said this was unlikely.

Meters not connected to the system "go dumb" when consumers switch energy suppliers to get a better deal, meaning they are no better than traditional meters as customers have to rely on estimated bills.

Under the Government's £11bn smart meter programme every household in the UK will have been offered a device by 2020. Energy suppliers which do not comply face heavy fines.

Last night consumer experts described the smart meter roll-out as a "cock up" while sources at major energy firms admitted the cost was "spiralling" despite customers receiving "sub-par experiences".

Until now the Government had presumed that the problem of "first generation" meters going dumb would be fixed as they could easily be connected to the system through simple computer programming.

But now it has emerged that many are incapable of being adapted to the central system, meaning they will have to be replaced.

It has also emerged that an unknown quantity of other meters may require expensive engineer visits to be brought onto the system.

To avert a potential multi-billion pound blow the operator behind the scheme is mulling various IT solutions. But even a programming overhaul would come at a cost of £500m, according to a consultation paper seen by the Daily Telegraph.

A year-long delay in the introduction of network, known as the Data Communications Company over "technical issues" also means millions more old-style smart meters than planned have been installed, further raising costs.

Speaking confidentially to this newspaper senior sources at major UK energy firms spoke out about the scheme's failure.

A senior source at one major energy supplier said: "We have a smart meter trilemma: if we don't roll out smart meters we can be fined. If we do, we know we could be offering a sub-par consumer experience. And all the while we're told by BEIS to never mention the costs."

An executive at another large provider said: "Some homes will need to have a new meter installed. Whatever solution we find is going to add huge costs on top of the £11bn estimate. We're talking hundred of millions of pounds to fix this mess."

Speaking to this newspaper in March, Smart Energy GB, which promotes smart meters in the UK, denied that any first generation meters would need to be replaced and suggested they would easily be able to be "enrolled" onto the network.

A Data Communications Company spokesperson said: “DCC was granted a licence by the Department for Business, Energy and Industry Strategy (BEIS) to build and integrate a national telecommunications network for SMETS 2 meters. This highly advanced national network went live after rigorous testing at the end of 2016 and DCC is now consulting on enabling the first wave of smart meters (SMETS1) to access the benefits of the new national network.”

Martin Lewis, founder of MoneySavingExpert.com, said: "The rollout of smart meters has been a cock up and a catastrophe. Energy firms are now using it as a soft form of trapping people into poor deals as they can't switch providers without their meters going dumb."

A spokesperson for the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy said: “SMETS1 meters will not need to be replaced. The Data and Communications Company will enrol these meters into their system, so that they can work in smart mode when consumers switch suppliers.”







jss64
Newb
Newb

Posts : 25
Join date : 2017-02-06

Back to top Go down

Re: SMART METERS GIGANTIC COCK UP

Post by daveiron on Sat May 06, 2017 5:21 pm

So 8 million households have consented to these meters & have had them fitted.It never ceases to amaze me at the level of intelligence that people in this country have degenerated into.
Clearly another example of believing the adverts on the idiot box.

daveiron
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 543
Join date : 2017-01-17

Back to top Go down

Re: SMART METERS GIGANTIC COCK UP

Post by assassin on Sun May 07, 2017 1:43 am

It gets worse Dave, if they fail you lose both gas and electricity and many second generation units have suffered huge problems ranging from disconnection of gas and electricity to huge bills, in one case it read as £77,000 of electricity in just one day, and there are many such stories of inaccurate readings all over the country.

There are numerous cases of private and business users being disconnected for several days and not having the meters to replace them, and small companies losing £1000's of business.
avatar
assassin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 726
Join date : 2017-01-28
Location : Wherever I Lay My Head

Back to top Go down

Re: SMART METERS GIGANTIC COCK UP

Post by daveiron on Sun May 07, 2017 9:20 am

They tried it with my sons business whilst i was still part of it . One phone call telling them that under no circumstances whatsoever would they be fitting one got rid of them.

One of the tactics they use is, they just inform you that they are coming to fit one (they have just tried that with my daughter) .Clearly the 8 million households just went along with it without question like the good little sheep they are.

It really does make me wonder if they all received a letter saying we are coming to put a gun to your head and are going to pull the trigger ,these dumb sheep would just go along with it.

daveiron
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 543
Join date : 2017-01-17

Back to top Go down

Re: SMART METERS GIGANTIC COCK UP

Post by assassin on Mon May 08, 2017 10:32 am

They tried that with me, I told them it wasn't happening and they changed it from an old meter reading cubic yards to cubic metres of gas.

The gas fitter himself was a nice guy and said if you are offered a smart meter then say "no f***ing way" and stick with the non smart meter, he said most of his time was chasing smart meter failures amd diagnosing faults from 1st and 2nd generation meter failures which had shut down and often disconnected gas and electricity supplies. He claimed some real horror stories and openly admitted they were another way of hacking your wireless connections, and another way of energy companies shutting off your supplies without a warrant, and entering your property.
avatar
assassin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 726
Join date : 2017-01-28
Location : Wherever I Lay My Head

Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum