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Post by assassin Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:32 pm

Its been an interesting day today, while in the car I listened to the radio and with particular interest as it was more Po-lice corruption, but not the kind of corruption we are used to as this focused around social media and the things the po0lice were posting online from personal mobile phones while on duty, and even from Po-lice computers when they were allegedly at work and supposedly working for, and on our behalf.

It appears that po-lice have been posting about the stresses and strains of the job! really, if you cannot do the job then resign and find another vocation is my thought, but obviously it went deeper, it appears that the po-lice are including many interesting details about the stresses and strains of the job and providing some quite specific details about incidents and locations and from this information people locally can work out both what the incident is, where its location is, and which people are involved in it.

It gets worse, it appears that a lot of po-lice are photographing serious incidents such as fatal traffic accident scenes and even murders and posting details, including pictures of scenes, properties, and even vehicles and this includes details of their registration numbers of the vehicles which can be quickly and easily traced online, they are posting pictures of distinctive vehicles such as a vehicle in a rare or odd colour, and even pictures of fatalities which includes the victims.

It was suggested that while some of these constables have been caught out, that most of them are covered up by senior constables to prevent them being exposed, and that in a couple of cases the victims of road traffic accidents have seen that members of their families have died online before the po-lice have even contacted them to inform them of such fatalities, and that in one case a constable provided a judgement as to an accident before he had even been to the scene.

Is this acceptable behavior, or is there a reason to ban all mobile devices to all constables while on duty.
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Post by Tom Bombadil Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:17 pm

No. Not acceptable.

Also. If they have time to p!ss about and not do what comes after an incident, then they are wasting our money!

Its going to boil down to a subject access request if one sees themselves or ones property on line, and woe betide if the images were taken on a personal device as thats in breach of data protection if they are.
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Post by LionsShare Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:15 pm

assassin wrote:It appears that po-lice have been posting about the stresses and strains of the job! really, if you cannot do the job then resign and find another.
Lets face it, they are lower than a snakes belly & you can’t get much lower than that! (meaning they are employed as they are mostly because of possibly can't get a proper job, on some sort of power trip, really think they are doing the community a service etc, I know it is stressful & actually do know a few coppers but these are my thoughts  & no I don't like them as have been on the receiving end unneccassary a few times, others will possibly disagree!)
assassin wrote:it appears that the po-lice are including many interesting details about the stresses and strains of the job and providing some quite specific details about incidents and locations and from this information people locally can work out both what the incident is, where its location is, and which people are involved in it.
This to me this is disgusting as ALL are entitled to privacy & respect which obviously coppers don’t do.
assassin wrote: Is this acceptable behavior.
No definitely not.
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Post by assassin Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:47 am

I think I may have the source of this story.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/opinion-crash-scene-tweets-reveal-a-dark-insight-into-modern-policing/ar-BBFU0bj?li=AAnZ9Ug

Read it for yourself and form your own opinions.
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Post by assassin Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:31 pm

We already have them Handle, they are called G4S and TSG which are private companies.

G4S already owns Avon and Somerset police, and their oath means nothing as they commit offences and lie about them.
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Post by jss64 Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:32 pm

This reminded me of a story I heard about recently.

Forensics scandal now hits TEN THOUSAND cases: Rogue scientists may have tampered with blood tests in suspect cases including murder and rape

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4980962/Forensics-scandal-hits-10-000-cases.html

Experts re-examine blood tests that may have been doctored at Randox Testing Services in Manchester
Full extent of scandal is far greater than 484 cases claimed by police in February
It could take up to five years for all of the falsified data to be sifted through

Rogue scientists may have tampered with forensic evidence in more than 10,000 cases – raising fears that innocent people could languish in jail for up to another five years after being falsely convicted for serious crimes, including rape and murder.
Experts are now painstakingly going back over the vast number of blood tests that it is feared have been doctored by employees at Randox Testing Services.
The full extent of the scandal is vastly greater than the 484 cases originally claimed by police in February when The Mail on Sunday exclusively revealed how evidence had been manipulated.
Up to a quarter of the affected samples were used in trials for serious crimes such as rape and murder.

Because there are only a dozen experts in the country who are qualified to check the blood samples, it could take up to five years for all of the falsified data to be sifted through and for miscarriages of justice to be rectified by the courts.

Already, important police investigations, trials and inquests, including the investigation into the death of former Premier League footballer Dalian Atkinson, have been delayed because critical evidence provided by Randox cannot be relied upon.

It can also be revealed today that Greater Manchester Police have interviewed a further five suspects in the case, in addition to the two Randox employees who were arrested earlier this year.
An insider told this newspaper last night: ‘Of the 10,000 cases being looked at, 7,500 are drug-driving and will all be retested in 21 months.
But the rest include crimes such as murder and rape which will take five years to retest as there are only 12 experts qualified nationally. It could mean that people are locked up unfairly.’
The scandal centres around the Manchester laboratory of Randox Testing Services, where scientists analysed samples of blood for traces of drugs on behalf of police forces across the country, as well as for family courts that decide adoption and custody cases.
In January this year, Randox, part of a health giant based in Northern Ireland, spotted what it said was an anomaly in some of the results and called in police.
It was suspected that disaffected workers had been falsifying critically important quality control data that verified the accuracy of the test results, rather than doctoring the samples themselves.
The doctored test results might then make innocent people look like they had drugs in their system, potentially leading to them being wrongly convicted of serious crimes.
Others may have unfairly lost their driving licences or even had children taken from them. Alternatively, guilty people may have walked free.
Two Randox employees were questioned on suspicion of perverting the course of justice and still remain under investigation, while the company was stripped of its Home Office accreditation to carry out tests for police.
At first, police chiefs said that only 484 positive tests had to be reviewed to see if the results should have been clean, but in May they admitted that 6,000 cases were being looked at again, and they could include cases of rape or murder.
The investigation stretches back several years to also cover work carried out by the suspects before they joined Randox.
Now, the number of positive samples being retested stands at more than 10,000, watchdog Dr Gillian Tully told experts at a recent meeting.
She said: ‘Prioritisation was being given to those relating to live cases or where the individual in question was currently serving a custodial sentence. In addition, negative samples would also have to be retested.’
The watchdog added in an industry newsletter last month: ‘The most substantial impact thus far has been that all forensic toxicology testing undertaken by them during the affected period must be considered to be unreliable.’

Dr Tully also raised the possibility that the problem may spread wider than just Randox.
She said: ‘The organisation concerned held accreditation to the appropriate quality standard, but the malpractice was not discovered by the usual quality checks.
'This raises a number of questions, including: a, whether or not malpractice is more widespread than at one organisation; and b, whether or not the quality standards need to be strengthened.’
But she went on: ‘No reasonable set of quality standards could guarantee to prevent determined malpractice by skilled but corrupt personnel and the inevitable cost of adding additional safeguards should be balanced against risk.’
Randox said last night it is paying for the retesting to be carried out in independent labs.

A spokesman said: ‘When RTS identified that data manipulation was being carried out, it immediately alerted the relevant authorities. RTS continues to assist the police, Forensic Service Regulator and Home Office in the investigation, which now dates beyond RTS.
‘It is currently managing the process of retesting samples at appropriately accredited laboratories, as well as covering the associated costs.’
The National Police Chiefs Council, which is monitoring the effect of the scandal across the criminal justice system, said: ‘We are continuing to work with Forensic Services Regulator, Crown Prosecution Service and the Home Office to identify, and prioritise for retesting, forensic samples that may have been affected by data manipulation by two individuals who worked for RTS. We will be able to provide a full and accurate update to the public in the coming weeks.’
Greater Manchester Police confirmed its investigation has widened to include five new suspects.
A spokesman said: ‘We are conducting a criminal investigation into forensic results issued by Randox Testing Services.
'Our investigation concerns the manipulation of quality control data around sample analysis. We do not have any information or evidence to suggest that samples themselves have been directly tampered with.
‘Randox Testing Services have provided forensic services to police forces, including GMP, for the past two years.
‘The organisation is being fully co-operative of the investigation, and brought the issue to GMP’s attention in the first instance.
‘Two men – a 47-year-old and a 31-year-old – have been arrested on suspicion of perverting the course of justice and released on bail until November pending further enquiries.
'The men were not arrested on site. Five further people – two women and three men – have been interviewed under caution in connection with the investigation.’
A spokesman for the Crown Prosecution Service said: ‘We continue to work with the Home Office, police and the Office of the Forensic Science Regulator to assess the impact of issues relating to Randox Testing Services.
‘As there is an ongoing police investigation into these issues, it would be inappropriate for us to comment in detail.
‘Our priority is to establish the impact of these issues on both completed and ongoing cases, in order to ensure that appropriate action is taken.’





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Post by assassin Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:27 pm

They are already doing this Handle, its called the PND system.
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Post by daveiron Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:32 pm

On the subject of police corruption ,watch the link,
This channel is always worth subbing.

https://youtu.be/2EovbSzMs3Y
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Post by jss64 Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:58 pm

Hi daveiron
Just listened to this earlier
He did a couple of other similar vids as well

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