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Post by ceylon on Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:30 pm

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Post by andybreck on Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:42 pm

i have received a claim form from civil enforcement ltd for a private parking fine and i wasn't the driver
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Post by assassin on Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:10 am

Return To Sender Andy.

If you appeal, fill in the documents, or engage with them you have consented to play their game by their rules.
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Post by andybreck on Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:17 pm

i didn't assassin but still got a claim form from the county court business centre
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Post by petesomething on Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:45 pm

Hi Andybreck

If you got a claim form from the county court , fill it in and send it back you have 14 days best do it on line , or you will get a ccj , this will give you more time to look into it
a friend of mine got a claim form for the same thing , just before court day he got a letter saying they pulled out
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Post by andybreck on Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:02 pm

thanks pete. i have done it on line and i am ready for them Evil or Very Mad i have 2 ccj which i have not and will not be paying
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Post by petesomething on Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:21 pm

Hi Andy

keep keep us all informed
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Post by andybreck on Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:23 pm

yes i will pete
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Post by andybreck on Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:24 pm

my defence is in and they have 28 days so lets see wot they do
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Post by petesomething on Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:19 pm

Hi andybreck


What did you put for your defence
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Post by andybreck on Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:25 pm

i was not driving at the time of the incident due to illness. i
will need photographic evidence of the driver due to there being
five other possible drivers.
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Post by petesomething on Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:33 pm

like assassin said dont engage with them if they write back to you,
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Post by andybreck on Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:46 pm

i dont want a ccj by default
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Post by petesomething on Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:56 pm

Hi Andybreak


sorry andy i was not talking about the court . i was thinking the parking company may write to you asking who was driving your car that day, and no you dont want a ccj by default
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Post by andybreck on Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:14 pm

o yeah i see what you mean now pete
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Post by andybreck on Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:50 pm

just a quick update civil enforcement limited had 28 days to reply after receipt of my defence its now been 32 days and they have been no contact.so now they will have to apply to a judge for an order lifting the stay if they want to take further action
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Post by petesomething on Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:53 pm

Hi Andy


lets see what they do
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Post by bimmer on Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:57 pm

If a "Judge" does order, you know they're only a Judge if they're acting under their Judicial oath, otherwise you can get the order void. still learning, but think I'm right
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Post by andybreck on Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:26 pm

got home today and a claim form was there from civil enforcement ltd for parking on the same car park but different date Evil or Very Mad i need to tell the people who drive my car to pay for the parking Wink
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Post by petesomething on Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:41 pm

who dares wins, play it cool Very Happy
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Post by andybreck on Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:50 pm

i will have to i have never paid on that car park Smile
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Post by andybreck on Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:28 pm

got a letter from the courts today and its same as before they have 28 days from the 12th now they have receipt of my defence Cool
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Post by Waffle on Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:55 pm

With penalty charge notices initially they write to the registered keeper, then the owner, they only assume the registered keeper is the owner, its up to the registered keeper to prove otherwise. It is the owner who is liable, not the driver or registered keeper. You can prove that someone else owns the vehicle by a declaration of trust, i.e you are the beneficiary they are legal owner, then they have to go to them for the money. I havre a friend in Indonesia, it'd difficult for them to track people aboard.

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Post by assassin on Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:26 am

One problem here Waffle, if you register a vehicle you transfer ownership to the DVLA as soon as you register it.

If you deregister a vehicle and then put it into trust then it becomes the property of the trust.
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Post by Waffle on Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:12 am

That idea is great assassin, but if it is not registered and we're using it on the road it causes problems, they do not hesitate investigating the situation, know your rights and you might be ok, but still is it worth all the agro??

A point worth making, if it is not registered can you still insure it, tax it and get an MOT? If you can do all of this, i.e running the vehicle legitimately without registering it or by deregistering it (i don't know if SWORN counts for this) without having to deal with the agro it may be worth while, in my opinion anyways.

The DVLA just maintain the register for someone else, like the GRO....

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