Trademark Disput with Council

by Phillpots Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:39 pm

Anyone have ideas or knows exactly how to send an invoice to a council? Maybe general example. For me it will be my trademark name as a disput. They will not cease or desist in using my name in all caps (they were warned and their 14 days notice is up). I am still paying every month but I do not expect the council to pay the invoice so I was thinking of going down the lines of a debt recovery firm to recover said invoice amount. I suppose there are other ways but this is the only one I can think of at the moment. Any other avenues to go down would be welcome.

by StrangerInAStrangeLand Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:48 pm

I'm confused here. Why are you continuing to pay when you are in dispute? By paying aren't you accepting their terms?

by Phillpots Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:24 pm

I have thought about not paying but I wish to stay in control and demand they change my name on their 'demand.' By paying I accept that their needs to be a service in my area. If you do not pay then do not expect anything from them PERIOD. My 'cough' DISPUTE is about changing the name on 'cough' THE DEMAND sent out every March. Does this clarify? It's about the name not the money I pay them.

by Awoken2 Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:07 am

Surely if your paying them that's acknowledging you are in fact the person they sent the bill to? Or am I missing something here?

Would you pay their cheque into the same account you are paying them from?

Is it just that you want the bill written properly with a capital letter stating your christian and surnames?

I'm also a bit perplexed, sorry.

by Phillpots Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:48 am

I accept I need to pay them for their services. Who would not? We all need the services they do. I just want them to put my name (my trademark name) e.g John Doe correctly with them but they have not accepted this - so I want to invoice them. After 7 days they attempted to adjust (they got rid of MR) but kept everything else in all caps. No good I'm afraid. Now is the time to act. Hence seeking advice. I want to send them an invoice for x amount. They will not pay so I will need to recover the debt. Their credit rating is adjusted accordingly. When my name is correctly spelled then as stated in my warning letter to them I will peruse it.

by **assassin** Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:22 am

CEO by name.

by Ausk Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:57 am

assassin wrote:CEO by name.

CEo by last name? first and last? include reference to position title?

sorry about such details but wondering if they are important given they will refuse, perhaps without gving reason, only to discover some day its because of an incorrect addressing of whom to.

by Ausk Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:58 am

Phillpots wrote:I accept I need to pay them for their services. Who would not? We all need the services they do. I just want them to put my name (my trademark name) e.g John Doe correctly with them but they have not accepted this - so I want to invoice them. After 7 days they attempted to adjust (they got rid of MR) but kept everything else in all caps. No good I'm afraid. Now is the time to act. Hence seeking advice. I want to send them an invoice for x amount. They will not pay so I will need to recover the debt. Their credit rating is adjusted accordingly. When my name is correctly spelled then as stated in my warning letter to them I will peruse it.

how much is the fee or is it charge for using your trademark?
thanks

by Phillpots Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:35 am

It's a standard monthly charge everyone in UK gets and the demand for my money comes once a year in March which covers the rest of the year via direct debit to them. The letter (demand) sent to me in March had my all cap name and I told them to change it to my trademark name e.g. John Doe. I want to send them an invoice based on a certain amount (maybe all the monthly amount since March, maybe more) and all the months going forward until they comply with my demand to use my name correctly.

by Ausk Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:56 am

Sorry not sure here; have you trade marked your John Doe name but not your corporate entity name and you want them to use your John Doe name so you can bill them - is that right?

From your post, i now understand the advantage of trade marking my human name, ie Ausk of the Doe family so when its used by money grabbers I can bill them as per my shedual of rates.

Do you think there is a reaslistc chane they will pay up?

thanks

by Phillpots Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:24 pm

Sorry. I have trademarked my John Doe name. All I can think of is to start billing them per month until they comply with my request to change the community tax demand they send out in March every year.

by aarons1950 Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:25 pm

What will you do if they dont' pay? How will you force them to?

by Phillpots Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:37 pm

Hence the original post. If I send them an invoice for x amount covering March to July and an invoice every month from there onwards (while still paying them - my wife pays through her account and don't wish upset her) I will then get a company like companycheck (where all these public businesses are listed) and ask them to recover my invoices (a service they offer on no win no fee). Could be a way forward not 100% sure - hence asking for advice or what would you do? Would you do it differently? Thanks all by the way we're getting there.

by aarons1950 Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:11 pm

Never heard of companycheck before, had a look at there site. They use ACS for debt collecting but ACS say on there website they only deal with commercial or CCA debts. I know others have fell foul of billing in the past as in English law (if you are in england/Wales) you have to have both sides agreement for a contract to be binding and tacit agreement isnt' recognised. Worth a try though, might see it on 'Can't Pay We'll Take it Away".

by Phillpots Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:23 pm

Thanks for the info. Would this not be classed as commercial then? If so what would it be if you know it. Cheers.

by **assassin** Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:18 pm

Yes as they only act on your commercial entity side.

by Phillpots Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:21 pm

Funny you said that assassin. I was speaking to a lawyer today to get a legal cease and desist letter made up and they said the council deal with me personally not commercially. Have not found a lawyer yet that will write up a proper cease and desist after my warning letters to the council so having great difficulty in moving this forward. Council also sent a letter back to me today from Local Tax Manager 'the persons name' IRRV (HONS). Quote: 'I am unable to ascertain from your latest correspondence what issue you have with demand notice dated .... In light I see no reason to issue a further demand notice to you.'

I will continue.

by **assassin** Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:30 pm

This is where you are going wrong, you cannot get a "legal" letter as by referring to your legal title or name you are referring to legal title and you are trying to deal with them as a human being which is a "lawful" entity,

by Phillpots Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:40 pm

Thanks for your comment. I'm clueless on taking this forward until something else turns up.

by **assassin** Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:45 pm

Sent you a PM.

by Phillpots Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:00 pm

Thanks assassin

by Carina Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:55 am

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