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A short History of Rates

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Post by Candor Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:47 am

http://www.landmarkchambers.co.uk/userfiles/Dan%20Kolinsky%20QC.pdf

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Post by Waffle Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:00 pm

Well Well Well, Parochial Assessment Act 1836
Contains the first reference to “hereditament” within rating statute

The Parochial Church (Powers) Measures 1921 were a primary aspect of the civil ecclesiastical split, however, from what I can make out this split was not and still is not absolute and although those measure divided the civil and ecclesiastical duties a civil council was and as far as I can make out (still trying to get to the bottom of it) was and is responsible to a Parochial Church Council.......

Hansard

I say "with practical unanimity," because there were two points upon which questions were raised, and each of these has since been the subject of some very wholesome discussion. The first related to the change in regard to the patronage of one or more City livings held under very peculiar conditions indeed, where the patronage lies with the parishioners or with feoffees on behalf of the parish. The proposals which we make, covering as they do England as a whole, transfer these powers to the parochial church councils which will be constituted under the Act; that is to say, that those who care about the church and attend it and make use of it are the people with whom the patronage will now rest. That is entirely in accordance with the spirit of the Act. If those who take exception to what we have done, on the ground that they are ratepayers or feoffees who have a right to 580 be considered, are properly qualified, they can obtain all the powers they desire to have by becoming members of the parochial church meeting and then of the parochial church council. There is no difficulty about it, and the objection seems to me, as it seemed to others, to be one which, though not trifling, because it is an important matter locally, is infinitesimal in its character. It affects only two or three of the 14,000 parishes in the whole of England, and I do not think any particular wrong is done.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1921/jun/15/parochial-church-councils-powers-measure

Sounds a little like there are still some very discrete penal laws hidden under their theatre stage somewhere.........

TBC

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Post by Waffle Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:14 pm

As close as I can get to 1836, Boviers 1856

HEREDITAMENTS, estates. Anything capable of being inherited, be it corporeal or incorporeal, real, personal, or mixed and including not only lands and everything thereon, but also heir looms, and certain furniture which, by custom, may descend to the heir, together with the land. Co. Litt. 5 b; 1 Tho. Co. Litt. 219; 2 Bl. Com. 17. By this term such things are denoted, as may be the subject-matter of inheritance, but not the inheritance itself; it cannot therefore, by its own intrinsic force, enlarge an estate, prima facie a life estate, into a fee. 2 B. & P. 251; 8 T. R. 503; 1 Tho. Co. Litt. 219, note T.

2. Hereditaments are divided into corporeal and incorporeal. Corporeal hereditaments are confined to lands. (q. v.) Vide Incorporeal hereditaments, and Shep. To. 91; Cruise's Dig. tit. 1, s. 1; Wood's Inst.221; 3 Kent, Com. 321; Dane's Ab. Index, h.t.; 1 Chit. Pr. 203-229; 2 Bouv. Inst. n. 1595, et seq.

HEREDITARY. That which is inherited

How about it cannot be inherited, a hereditament, if it belongs to the Crown! Or the Church of England!

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Post by Candor Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:47 am

Yes exactly, the laws of inheritance were abolished and replaced with something called dispositions in the 1925 law of property Act, you inherit nothing in this legal realm of titles they have established you succeed in holding or transfer titles only.

This of course presents the Judiciary with a problem with the term "hereditament" - they cannot have it both ways, you only have to look at the confusion and uncertainty they arrived at in their precedents to see that by hiding the true nature of the primary law form used in what are effectively probate courts, they have had to continuously hide it with layers of circular gobbledygook.

Inheritance has been abolished.

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Post by Candor Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:10 pm

Point in case:

Judicial Observations on s.115 of the GRA 1967

Sedley LJ in Vtesse Networks Ltd v Bradford (VO) [2006] EWCA Civ 1339 at paragraph 40:

“The key to the apparently circular definition given by s.115(1) of the General Rate Act 1967 , which defines a hereditament by its liability to rating, is that it assumes and relies on an existing fund of knowledge of what is and is not capable of being shown as a separate item in the valuation list”.

Sir Alan Ward in Reeves (Listing Officer) v Northrop [2013] EWCA Civ 362 at paragraph 9:
“If prizes are to be offered for legislative gobbledegook then the foregoing would surely qualify. Having undertaken that trawl through these various statutes I confess to my shame I am no wiser nor would any ordinary citizen be without help from the Practice Note. That does at least make sense”:

Hiding beneath a sea of gobbledygook lies the truth ...perhaps.

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Post by Guest Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:00 pm

Hi guys

Your thought inspiring musings inspired me to muse too. You know that T.H.E.Y. like to laugh at us, right? We really should stop amusing them. Fancy a word game?

We know that T.H.E.Y. have their own language and have enslaved us with it. We know that the alternate meanings they have given familiar words in many cases seem so ridiculous as to defy popular belief that it could be so - and yet it IS so, eg. 'i do not consent' to 'i do knot consent'. A better example is perhaps the word 'understand'....

In the hansard link Candor kindly offered me as homework i noticed a guy near the start winding up his oppo about an odd choice of terminology in the proposed act (perhaps referring to a sea of gobbledygook?). As the debate progressed it was also pointed out that it is a 50/50 head tax/property tax.

Property is the legal term used to describe that which in law would be termed land.

T.H.E.Y. also appear to be 'mixing their magics' in this bill/act.

Hereditament - from Latin, ANYTHING that can be inherited.

Dead things (persons/corporations) can't inherit. 'Humans' apparently have no inheritable blood.

The thing with the 'language de l'Eglise' as they use it is that what they write with it has to make some sort of sense in English while meaning something quite different in pursuit of their occult agenda.

They look on us as pieces of land, imo an accurate description of our bodies. 'Man' is the soul/spirit/mind OCCUPYING the land/body. A human is considered to have a rudimentary mind and an anima-l/spirit but no soul, so no inheritable blood. A human is a 'thing' and can be inherited.

A 'dwelling' is an animal's cave. 'Body' is the 'dwelling' place of 'anima-l'.

What might 'heredit' mean if one takes 'ament' to mean 'person born an idiot' (latin)?

i'll stop rambling now.

Cheers!




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