The GOODF Approach
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» Leighton vs Bristow & Sutor high court ruling. 'enforcement agent' needed to supply a legally executed liability order to prove any authority.
by wakey wakey Sun Nov 10, 2024 4:01 pm

» Brandon Joe Williams
by grams Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:29 am

» A Parcel sent to me worth 99p ! Court Claim received !
by memegirl777 Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:53 pm

» UK Courts Using Faulty Cell Site Data a Serious Concern!!
by midnight Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:32 pm

» Clowells continue
by Biggiebest Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:47 am

» Legal responsibility
by Biggiebest Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:36 pm

» Composting Leaves
by assassin Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:25 am

» Composting
by assassin Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:22 am

» BEWARE OF TSB BANK
by daveiron Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:04 am

» Council Tax
by Lopsum Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:57 pm

» Salary Finance
by daveiron Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:56 am

» DWP
by daveiron Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:49 am

» Real Electric Cars
by assassin Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:53 am

» BOMBSHELL: Slovakia could BAN mRNA vaccines
by assassin Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:40 am

» Council Tax (getting answers)
by assassin Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:22 pm

» DSAR DELAYS
by daveiron Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:20 pm

» For those considering ,conditional acceptance
by daveiron Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:55 am

» Just got a letter
by daveiron Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:46 pm

» Ceder so called bailiffs
by Ian4644 Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:43 pm

» Our Little Food Growing Experiment
by assassin Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:01 am

» Jocabs Threatening my parents address over council tax.
by darkfireblade Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:42 pm

» Heat Your Home
by assassin Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:48 am

» Purchased Used car, thew con rod after 4 weeks, 40,000mi on clock, can we get out of the finance?
by scrwm Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:56 pm

» ULEZ London huge fine for misunderstanding
by urchinatheart Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:56 pm

» The new ruling, lie-ability order
by assassin Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:19 am

» Prepping 1 Lighting Overview
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:34 am

» Prepping 2 Selecting Light Sources
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:26 am

» Prepping 3 Security
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:21 am

» Prepping 4 Planning Your Lighting
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:18 am

» Prepping 5 Charging Your Batteries
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:15 am

» An idea to reform the police ?
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:02 am

» Post 2007 CCA
by Biggiebest Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:47 pm

» Travel advice please: London to Amsterdam no injects no tests
by Kaddabriol Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:39 am

» CCJ letter
by waylander62 Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:12 pm

» Disability
by assassin Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:03 am

» It works (Richard Vobes)
by assassin Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:57 am

» Veronica Chapmans approach to CT
by daveiron Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:17 pm

» Tsb many times refused basic account
by flyingfish Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:53 am

» Lowell New Address
by waylander62 Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:41 pm

» The Daily Mail doesn't know the law on facemasks and disability -ThatguyScottWeb
by Emma78 Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:29 am

» DSAR from OC
by waylander62 Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:46 pm

» HSBC advice please.
by Trishiapp28 Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:30 pm

» Council Tax Notice of Enforcement
by Lopsum Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:26 pm

» If The State is Pushing You to Riot , Do the Reverse
by Lopsum Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:16 pm

» Grid Down Mistakes To Avoid
by assassin Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:05 am

» Grid Down Realities
by assassin Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:57 am

» Lowest of Lowest continue with their fraud
by assassin Mon Aug 05, 2024 3:09 am

» Government Prepping Food and Water
by assassin Mon Aug 05, 2024 3:07 am

» Subject access dca refused
by daveiron Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:14 am

» Pre action protocol
by Biggiebest Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:40 am

» DCA working on behalf of an energy company
by daveiron Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:45 pm

» More of the Same
by daveiron Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:19 am

» Off Grid Engine Projects
by assassin Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:03 am

» Government Prepping Setting Up
by urchinatheart Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:13 am

» Latest from CrimeBodge
by assassin Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:15 am

Moon phases


DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

5 posters

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:51 pm

Hi everyone,

In a previous post (back on 13th March 2017) Tiggy advised that DCAs can't start legal proceedings against us. Is that still the case?

Nonetheless I recently notified a DCA that SHOULD they start legal proceedings, then I would be issuing a pre action conduct letter to any solicitor working on their behalf. Basically to let them know I mean business.

(Background: original GOODF debt purchaser 3 letter system served against the debt purchaser. I guess that's why they're foolishly trying their luck getting a minion DCA to try and do their dirty work haha!)

PS Down to the last £3k out of £18k I 'owed' 3 1/2 years ago, so the system is working. As such, if you need any help or templates, I have some good tweaked ones too which were supported by previous moderators inc Faljay (hope he's well) and Williams etc.

Thank you :-)
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by waylander62 Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:15 pm

it really depends on why tiggy said DCA's cant start legal proceedings at that time

and if anything has changed since


waylander62
dedicated
dedicated

Posts : 1294
Join date : 2017-10-03

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:28 pm

Haha I get that, which is why I asked the question / I'm waiting to hopefully get an answer from Tiggy (if she's still here) or someone with experience :-)
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by waylander62 Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:34 pm

several have the experience but if they are like myself have no idea what any of this is actually about ?

if you read your first post yourself it is very cryptic if you have not seen what the old goodf thread was about !?

waylander62
dedicated
dedicated

Posts : 1294
Join date : 2017-10-03

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:39 pm

The question was simple and in the first paragraph. Nothing cryptic :-)

And intended for Tiggy or someone with experience, not a newbie with the greatest respect :-)
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by waylander62 Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:45 pm

Lol

no worries Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

waylander62
dedicated
dedicated

Posts : 1294
Join date : 2017-10-03

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:52 pm

Haha sorry. I mean yes, I guess I by also bringing up some history / context to it that it may have given you a cryptic impression, but I didn't intend it to and I will stick to a simple one paragraph (max) question in future :-)

Also wanted to share the news (£18k down to £3k) to help convince any newbies. I've been a member (original GOODF) since Nov 2014 and have been on many threads with Williams, Ceylon, Tiggy, Faljay (now sadly left) and, with their help and the letters systems, had a lot of success AND lost the initial fear (it does go I promise). It's all a bloody game, only WE won't fall for it...

All the best! :-)
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by waylander62 Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:37 pm

Smile

well done , some very good and familiar names you have included in your last post

waylander62
dedicated
dedicated

Posts : 1294
Join date : 2017-10-03

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:41 pm

Thank you!

(Sadly no experts have responded yet)
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Tvarred Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:45 pm

I had a DCA take me to court in early 2017 and win with no signature, but merely a tick in an online box.


Last edited by Tvarred on Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:59 pm; edited 1 time in total

Tvarred
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 34
Join date : 2018-01-29

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:36 pm

Sounds like you didn't use the three letter system? All the banks / debt purchases and banks I have dealt with thus far have backed off...
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Tvarred Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:58 pm

Used all the tools on the old site including the 3 letters and various other notices as well as billing them at least 5 times. Yes, I know I was stitched up, but the only consolation I have is that I will be dead before they even recover their court costs.

Tvarred
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 34
Join date : 2018-01-29

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:03 pm

Ok I'm sorry it didn't work for you. It has / is working for me.

All the best!
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Ausk Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:00 am

Tvarred wrote:Used all the tools on the old site including the 3 letters and various other notices as well as billing them at least 5 times. Yes, I know I was stitched up, but the only consolation I have is that I will be dead before they even recover their court costs.

What may have contributed to your loss was that by billing them 5 times they may have decided that you don't know much and they may have through you a babe in the woods.

You should not bill anyone 5 times because 3 times is plenty. By billing them 5 times you became something of a begger.

1 time = a demand, 2 times = a repeated demand, 3 = you've said that before, perhaps you mean it, perhaps you don't. 4 times says your begging.

3 times is plenty of evidence for the mag that you have made a genuine attempt to obtain evidence or payment or whatever from the party demanding the money etc.

Ausk
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 491
Join date : 2017-06-03

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Tvarred Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:20 pm

Ausk wrote:
Tvarred wrote:Used all the tools on the old site including the 3 letters and various other notices as well as billing them at least 5 times. Yes, I know I was stitched up, but the only consolation I have is that I will be dead before they even recover their court costs.

What may have contributed to your loss was that by billing them 5 times they may have decided that you don't know much and they may have through you a babe in the woods.

You should not bill anyone 5 times because 3 times is plenty. By billing them 5 times you became something of a begger.

1 time = a demand, 2 times = a repeated demand, 3 = you've said that before, perhaps you mean it, perhaps you don't. 4 times says your begging.

3 times is plenty of evidence for the mag that you have made a genuine attempt to obtain evidence or payment or whatever from the party demanding the money etc.


I realise I made mistakes and would have done things differently knowing what I know now, but to be honest I could just stop paying the pittance I pay as they have no address for me and zero chance of ever finding me if they tried.

Tvarred
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 34
Join date : 2018-01-29

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Ausk Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:55 am

Tvarred wrote:
Ausk wrote:
Tvarred wrote:Used all the tools on the old site including the 3 letters and various other notices as well as billing them at least 5 times. Yes, I know I was stitched up, but the only consolation I have is that I will be dead before they even recover their court costs.

What may have contributed to your loss was that by billing them 5 times they may have decided that you don't know much and they may have through you a babe in the woods.

You should not bill anyone 5 times because 3 times is plenty. By billing them 5 times you became something of a begger.

1 time = a demand, 2 times = a repeated demand, 3 = you've said that before, perhaps you mean it, perhaps you don't. 4 times says your begging.

3 times is plenty of evidence for the mag that you have made a genuine attempt to obtain evidence or payment or whatever from the party demanding the money etc.


I realise I made mistakes and would have done things differently knowing what I know now, but to be honest I could just stop paying the pittance I pay as they have no address for me and zero chance of ever finding me if they tried.

Sounds like you got them where you want them which is good, don't worry about mistakes, we all make em and they are all learning opportunities.

We humans learn more from pain than any other way.

Ausk
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 491
Join date : 2017-06-03

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:08 am

Hopefully someone - with experience e.g. a moderator - can respond to my original question :-)
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Ausk Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:28 pm

There are two types of debt collectors, those who are simply paid to do the leg work for the original creditor, These are mere agents and because they do not own the debt, they have no cause of action with which to take you to court so they cannot take you to court.

An exception to this are lawyers who have a lawyer client relationship. They can take you to court but on behalf of the OC.

Then there are debt buyers who purchase the debt off the original creditor. These people legally own the debt because the OC has assigned the debt to them so yes they can take you to court.

Ausk
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 491
Join date : 2017-06-03

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by ande Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:00 pm

Speaking from my experience I think that Ausk is right on the money, my OC used 3  DCA,s as agents and I fought them all off with the 3 letter method ,then they sold the alleged debt to a DCA who are now threatening to bankrupt me and take my house .

ande
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 37
Join date : 2018-01-18

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Ausk Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:53 am

ande wrote:Speaking from my experience I think that Ausk is right on the money, my OC used 3  DCA,s as agents and I fought them all off with the 3 letter method ,then they sold the alleged debt to a DCA who are now threatening to bankrupt me and take my house .

Until they take you to court and prove their case which seems suspect then they cant do anything. In the mean time how many times have you sent the 3 letters which all say:

I will happily pay what I lawfully owe settle your claim on the condition that you PROVE YOUR claim?


Ausk
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 491
Join date : 2017-06-03

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:29 pm

Thanks for your advice Ausk! (19th Aug 12:28) :-)
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:32 pm

@ande: no Debt purchaser or DCA will "threaten to bankrupt you" or "take away your house". Do you have a scan of the letter (remove your address details / ref etc first obviously!) to show this??
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by ande Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:36 am

Hi thanks for your interest in my problem,I dont want to to hijack this thread the story so far is on here as " Threatened bankruptcy proceedings " I didn't get home last night a case of late finish early start but I will be with you as soon as I can thanks for your help and interest Andy

ande
Not so newb
Not so newb

Posts : 37
Join date : 2018-01-18

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:29 am

No problem Andy, my original question has been answered now :-)

Perhaps start a new thread now - called "Threatened bankruptcy proceedings and taking my house" -makes it easier for people to look up etc :-)
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Mrblue2015 Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:32 am

One last one Andy about your post 19th Aug 8pm which doesn't quite make sense:

"Speaking from my experience I think that Ausk is right on the money, my OC used 3 DCA,s as agents and I fought them all off with the 3 letter method ,then they sold the alleged debt to a DCA ..."

Who sold the debt to a DCA? DCAs (Debt Collection Agents) donm't buy debts. They chase them up on behalf of a Debt Purchaser / OC :-)

Do you mean "OC sold debt to another Debt Purchaser" (who could then, either chase the debt themselves or get a minion DCA)?
Mrblue2015
Mrblue2015
Distinguished member
Distinguished member

Posts : 2472
Join date : 2017-06-11

Back to top Go down

DCA - can they start legal proceedings? Empty Re: DCA - can they start legal proceedings?

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum