Search
Latest topics
» Leighton vs Bristow & Sutor high court ruling. 'enforcement agent' needed to supply a legally executed liability order to prove any authority.by wakey wakey Sun Nov 10, 2024 4:01 pm
» Brandon Joe Williams
by grams Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:29 am
» A Parcel sent to me worth 99p ! Court Claim received !
by memegirl777 Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:53 pm
» UK Courts Using Faulty Cell Site Data a Serious Concern!!
by midnight Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:32 pm
» Clowells continue
by Biggiebest Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:47 am
» Legal responsibility
by Biggiebest Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:36 pm
» Composting Leaves
by assassin Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:25 am
» Composting
by assassin Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:22 am
» BEWARE OF TSB BANK
by daveiron Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:04 am
» Council Tax
by Lopsum Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:57 pm
» Salary Finance
by daveiron Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:56 am
» DWP
by daveiron Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:49 am
» Real Electric Cars
by assassin Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:53 am
» BOMBSHELL: Slovakia could BAN mRNA vaccines
by assassin Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:40 am
» Council Tax (getting answers)
by assassin Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:22 pm
» DSAR DELAYS
by daveiron Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:20 pm
» For those considering ,conditional acceptance
by daveiron Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:55 am
» Just got a letter
by daveiron Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:46 pm
» Ceder so called bailiffs
by Ian4644 Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:43 pm
» Our Little Food Growing Experiment
by assassin Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:01 am
» Jocabs Threatening my parents address over council tax.
by darkfireblade Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:42 pm
» Heat Your Home
by assassin Mon Sep 23, 2024 3:48 am
» Purchased Used car, thew con rod after 4 weeks, 40,000mi on clock, can we get out of the finance?
by scrwm Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:56 pm
» ULEZ London huge fine for misunderstanding
by urchinatheart Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:56 pm
» The new ruling, lie-ability order
by assassin Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:19 am
» Prepping 1 Lighting Overview
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:34 am
» Prepping 2 Selecting Light Sources
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:26 am
» Prepping 3 Security
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:21 am
» Prepping 4 Planning Your Lighting
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:18 am
» Prepping 5 Charging Your Batteries
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:15 am
» An idea to reform the police ?
by assassin Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:02 am
» Post 2007 CCA
by Biggiebest Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:47 pm
» Travel advice please: London to Amsterdam no injects no tests
by Kaddabriol Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:39 am
» CCJ letter
by waylander62 Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:12 pm
» Disability
by assassin Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:03 am
» It works (Richard Vobes)
by assassin Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:57 am
» Veronica Chapmans approach to CT
by daveiron Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:17 pm
» Tsb many times refused basic account
by flyingfish Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:53 am
» Lowell New Address
by waylander62 Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:41 pm
» The Daily Mail doesn't know the law on facemasks and disability -ThatguyScottWeb
by Emma78 Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:29 am
» DSAR from OC
by waylander62 Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:46 pm
» HSBC advice please.
by Trishiapp28 Thu Aug 15, 2024 6:30 pm
» Council Tax Notice of Enforcement
by Lopsum Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:26 pm
» If The State is Pushing You to Riot , Do the Reverse
by Lopsum Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:16 pm
» Grid Down Mistakes To Avoid
by assassin Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:05 am
» Grid Down Realities
by assassin Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:57 am
» Lowest of Lowest continue with their fraud
by assassin Mon Aug 05, 2024 3:09 am
» Government Prepping Food and Water
by assassin Mon Aug 05, 2024 3:07 am
» Subject access dca refused
by daveiron Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:14 am
» Pre action protocol
by Biggiebest Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:40 am
» DCA working on behalf of an energy company
by daveiron Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:45 pm
» More of the Same
by daveiron Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:19 am
» Off Grid Engine Projects
by assassin Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:03 am
» Government Prepping Setting Up
by urchinatheart Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:13 am
» Latest from CrimeBodge
by assassin Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:15 am
Moon phases
Fined because her dogs lead was too long.
5 posters
Page 1 of 1
Fined because her dogs lead was too long.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bootle-nan-fined-walking-dog-15634556?fbclid=IwAR0TZflWdV-AQtopZik7dJEemJdnzDoFUAkXd4IH8TD0ge-LBRT_88cIYl8
midnight- Very helpful
- Posts : 252
Join date : 2017-05-25
Age : 61
Location : Wisbech
Re: Fined because her dogs lead was too long.
Totally unable to sign in with G+ or Twitter, to balance the comments.
The Fine said Council but the article said a private Firm !!!
The Fine said Council but the article said a private Firm !!!
Society of the Spectacle- Admin
- Posts : 1289
Join date : 2017-01-15
Location : Castor
Re: Fined because her dogs lead was too long.
Bootle nan fined for walking her dog because its lead was TOO LONG
80-year-old Maureen "cried all night" after being threatened with a criminal record
A Bootle nan was fined for walking her dog near her house because enforcement officers "told her the lead was too long".
Maureen Sanders, 80, was walking her rescue dog Soren around Bootle Cemetery on Friday morning - but when she went to leave she was stopped by two officers from enforcement firm NSL.
The two women told Maureen her dog lead was "too long" and needed to be less than two metres if she wanted to use it in the area.
Maureen said that instead of issuing the nan-of-four with a warning or explaining the rules to her, the officers slapped her with a £50 fine for breaking the by-law.
Speaking to the ECHO, Maureen said: "Soren is from Romania and I've had him about three years. He's a friendly dog but he can get quite frightened because he had a bad time in Romania.
"I had no idea it was a rule. My daughters rang the One Stop Shop when I had to pay the fine and the staff in there said they had never heard of it."
Maureen's daughters have offered to help her pay the £50 fine so the money doesn't come out of her hard-earned pension.
However, Maureen said she is refusing to pay the fine on principle.
She said: "What upset me was if you don't have it paid up in a fortnight they said you would be fined £2,500 and I would have a criminal record.
"I cried all night because I was so, so upset."
Maureen rescued her beloved Soren from a Romanian fighting pit three years ago, where he was being used for dog fights.
While the rescue dog is friendly and well-behaved, Maureen said he can get quite frightened of other dogs, which is why she has to keep him on a lead at all times.
She said: "I don't have a computer or anything - I wouldn't know the by-laws or anything. I've always been very respectful in the cemetery. I always have the dog on a lead and a lot of people don't do that!"
Maureen's daughter Maggie Eaton said she found her mum in "floods of tears" after being handed the fine on her morning dog walk.
She said her mum is waiting for a hip replacement and needs to use a longer lead to walk Soren because she has difficulty walking.
Maggie also said her mum is a responsible dog owner who "always carries poo bags and cleans up after her dog without fail."
She said: "Mum does not have that sort of money to pay for walking her dog under control on a lead as she has done every day for years.
"My sister and I offered to pay but mum is adamant that as she was not doing anything wrong by walking her dog on a lead in the rear part of the cemetery away from the graves, early in the morning in the only green space close to her flat.
"She is not going to pay."
80-year-old Maureen "cried all night" after being threatened with a criminal record
A Bootle nan was fined for walking her dog near her house because enforcement officers "told her the lead was too long".
Maureen Sanders, 80, was walking her rescue dog Soren around Bootle Cemetery on Friday morning - but when she went to leave she was stopped by two officers from enforcement firm NSL.
The two women told Maureen her dog lead was "too long" and needed to be less than two metres if she wanted to use it in the area.
Maureen said that instead of issuing the nan-of-four with a warning or explaining the rules to her, the officers slapped her with a £50 fine for breaking the by-law.
Speaking to the ECHO, Maureen said: "Soren is from Romania and I've had him about three years. He's a friendly dog but he can get quite frightened because he had a bad time in Romania.
"I had no idea it was a rule. My daughters rang the One Stop Shop when I had to pay the fine and the staff in there said they had never heard of it."
Maureen's daughters have offered to help her pay the £50 fine so the money doesn't come out of her hard-earned pension.
However, Maureen said she is refusing to pay the fine on principle.
She said: "What upset me was if you don't have it paid up in a fortnight they said you would be fined £2,500 and I would have a criminal record.
"I cried all night because I was so, so upset."
Maureen rescued her beloved Soren from a Romanian fighting pit three years ago, where he was being used for dog fights.
While the rescue dog is friendly and well-behaved, Maureen said he can get quite frightened of other dogs, which is why she has to keep him on a lead at all times.
She said: "I don't have a computer or anything - I wouldn't know the by-laws or anything. I've always been very respectful in the cemetery. I always have the dog on a lead and a lot of people don't do that!"
Maureen's daughter Maggie Eaton said she found her mum in "floods of tears" after being handed the fine on her morning dog walk.
She said her mum is waiting for a hip replacement and needs to use a longer lead to walk Soren because she has difficulty walking.
Maggie also said her mum is a responsible dog owner who "always carries poo bags and cleans up after her dog without fail."
She said: "Mum does not have that sort of money to pay for walking her dog under control on a lead as she has done every day for years.
"My sister and I offered to pay but mum is adamant that as she was not doing anything wrong by walking her dog on a lead in the rear part of the cemetery away from the graves, early in the morning in the only green space close to her flat.
"She is not going to pay."
midnight- Very helpful
- Posts : 252
Join date : 2017-05-25
Age : 61
Location : Wisbech
Re: Fined because her dogs lead was too long.
I would go back to the park, camera in hand, and photograph ALL the signs, if none state any length of lead then appeal it and get it overturned, then hit NSL with a claim for fraud and with compensation.
assassin- Admin
- Posts : 3634
Join date : 2017-01-28
Location : Wherever I Lay My Head
Re: Fined because her dogs lead was too long.
If I remember rightly, this was one of the EU laws passed in 2011. And I,m sure the length of a dog lead cannot exceed 1.5 metres.
They constantly do this ! They pass a stupid 'Act' and keep it on a 'low burner' until they need to generate a bit of cash, then BANG! All of a sudden the number of people being done for long dog leads explodes, everyone complains and the Council stands up and says its an established law that's been on the books for years and there is no excuse.
They constantly do this ! They pass a stupid 'Act' and keep it on a 'low burner' until they need to generate a bit of cash, then BANG! All of a sudden the number of people being done for long dog leads explodes, everyone complains and the Council stands up and says its an established law that's been on the books for years and there is no excuse.
MikeThomas- Not so newb
- Posts : 57
Join date : 2017-05-01
Re: Fined because her dogs lead was too long.
What section of what by law is the council or city (whatever it is) relying on for their authority to lay this charge?
What does the council rely on for its proof of claim that the lead was too long?
Did the policy officer measure the length of the lead with a tape measure or did they make a guesstimate of the length.
If the officer measured the length of the lead where is the calibration records showing when and to what standard the tape measure had been last calibrated against?
Officer; can you prove with substantiating evidence the tape measure you used was within specification on the day you used it?
If this is a criminal offense, reasonable doubt is all you need to cast (technically.)
What does the council rely on for its proof of claim that the lead was too long?
Did the policy officer measure the length of the lead with a tape measure or did they make a guesstimate of the length.
If the officer measured the length of the lead where is the calibration records showing when and to what standard the tape measure had been last calibrated against?
Officer; can you prove with substantiating evidence the tape measure you used was within specification on the day you used it?
If this is a criminal offense, reasonable doubt is all you need to cast (technically.)
Ausk- Moderator
- Posts : 491
Join date : 2017-06-03
Page 1 of 1
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum