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Post by daveiron Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:44 pm

I would urge all those who have concerns about 5G to do likewise.
This is what I expect to be the first of many requests to my local council, sent today ,will post replies.

" Hi
This is a Freedom of Information Request ,in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

Please supply the following information.
1 What plans are there for the introduction of 5G within the North Hertfordshire area ?

2 Have councillors voted on the introduction of 5G,and if so were they provided with full disclosure
regarding the significant body of evidence regarding not only serious health implications but also the
destruction of critical wildlife ?

3 In the event of 5G introduction,and with regard to the fact no insurance company will insure against 5G.
Who will be personally liable within the council for any and all claims.

Many thanks xxxxx "
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Post by Mrblue2015 Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:54 pm

Happy to support here Dave!
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Post by itheman Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:26 pm

Good call daveiron, the word, and facts need to be known and spread.

Do you mind if i post it elsewhere?

LED street lights too to ask about


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Post by daveiron Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:37 pm

Hi,

by all means pass it wherever you can. depending upon the response there will be many more follow up foi's
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Post by itheman Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:08 pm

Link to FOI

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/select_authority

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Post by daveiron Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:30 pm

Yes I thought about using whatdotheyknow but prefer to do it myself .Better to chase up & follow up in my opinion.
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Post by itheman Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:25 pm

Hi all,

a reply has been received to:
Dear Staffordshire County Council,

Please supply the following information.
1 What plans are there for the introduction of 5G within the Staffordshire area ?

2 Have councillors voted on the introduction of 5G, and if so were they provided with full disclosure regarding the significant body of evidence regarding not only serious health implications but also the destruction of critical wildlife ?

3 In the event of 5G introduction,and with regard to the fact no insurance company will insure against 5G. Who will be personally liable within the council for any and all claims.


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Thank you for your request for information.

Please find information provided by the relevant service area(s) set out below.

Whilst 5G is the next new technology coming down the line, it is a high capacity version of 4G which is already present across the UK and Staffordshire. The wireless element of 5G will require additional masts and a massive number of cell sites to achieve the superfast speeds and ultra-low latency. The County Council have not approved any plans to roll out this emerging technology, and would expect the commercial operators to be the first to do so.

Staffordshire County Council is not responsible for planning decisions for errection/installation of mobile masts/equipment this is the responsibility of local planning authorities (district and borough councils).

The Department for ommunities and Local Government (DCLG) are responsible for national policy and guidance.

Please note that FOI requests are limited to 'recorded information' and do not cover opinion and advice.

If you have any comments relating to how your request for recorded information has been handled by our authority you should contact us in the first instance. Send your comment or complaint to:

Access Manager, Information Governance Unit, Staffordshire County Council, 1 Staffordshire Place, Stafford ST16 2DH or email [email address]

If you then have any further comments relating to how your request has been handled by our authority, please contact the Information Commissioner, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF.

Regards

David Portch

Information Governance Unit
Staffordshire County Council
1 Staffordshire Place
Stafford
ST16 2DH


guess we need to FOI for "recorded information"
and FOI:
The Department for ommunities and Local Government (DCLG) are responsible for national policy and guidance.
district and borough councils
the commercial operators

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Post by daveiron Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:56 pm

I would try the district council , thats where I sent mine .Not even had confirmation of receipt of email yet.
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Post by itheman Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:49 pm

Sent FOI to county council for led streetlights too, i'll get it off to District council Smile

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Post by daveiron Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:27 pm

Ok,
Response received,
NHDC is not aware of any plans for the introduction of 5G .These plans would be made by the telephone companies themselves ?

NHDC is not aware of any reports having gone to Cllrs.

The Council does not plan to get involved in the direct provision on any mobile phone masts,and therefore does not foresee any insurance or liability implications arising from this. Any liability would rest with the owner and/or operator of the mast.

I am now preparing more questions ,any further suggestions welcome .
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Post by Society of the Spectacle Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:23 pm

daveiron wrote:Ok,
Response received,
NHDC is not aware of any plans for the introduction of 5G .These plans would be made by the telephone companies themselves ?

NHDC is not aware of any reports having gone to Cllrs.

The Council does not plan to get involved in the direct provision on any mobile phone masts,and therefore does not foresee any insurance or liability implications arising from this. Any liability would rest with the owner and/or operator of the mast.

I am now preparing more questions ,any further suggestions welcome .

Surely if the Masts that appear in their district are harmful, they could face some liability for not Health testing them ?

After all a mast requires some planning permission I would have thought ?
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Post by LionsShare Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:25 pm

Society of the Spectacle wrote:
daveiron wrote:Ok,
Response received,
NHDC is not aware of any plans for the introduction of 5G .These plans would be made by the telephone companies themselves ?

NHDC is not aware of any reports having gone to Cllrs.

The Council does not plan to get involved in the direct provision on any mobile phone masts,and therefore does not foresee any insurance or liability implications arising from this. Any liability would rest with the owner and/or operator of the mast.

I am now preparing more questions ,any further suggestions welcome .

Surely if the Masts that appear in their district are harmful, they could face some liability for not Health testing them ?

After all a mast requires some planning permission I would have thought ?
Ask to see their risk assessments!
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Post by daveiron Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:17 pm

This is my follow up to their response;

Dear Garry Melding.
Thank you for your response to my FOI request,however I do require some clarification on some points.

1 Are planning or any other permissions required for the siteing and / or erection of masts,whether on public
or private land ?

2 In towns / cities where preparation for the '5G smart network' has involved the removal of trees from public
land,as witnessed in Sheffield by the wholesale destruction of trees on public land ,what is the position of
NHDC, should / when this is proposed ?

3 Are NHDC acting as trustees for public land ? if yes ,therefor does NHDC hold a duty of care in relation
to masts transmitting potentially harmful non ionising radiation ?

Please do not treat this request as hypothetical , because it is planned that the '5G smart network' will
be rolled out almost worldwide,( strangely with the exception of Israel).




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Post by daveiron Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:52 pm

This is the response to my FOI request sent to the county council as the district council appeared
to know nothing . Their response is listed previously in this thread. Interestingly it was answered by
the same woman who replied to my request with the local council.

REFERENCE NUMBER FOI/ENV/05/19/17522

Our Response



Your request for information has been considered under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 I can confirm that Hertfordshire County Council does hold the information you have requested, and can respond as follows:-



This is a request made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 .Please provide the following information.



1.       What plans are there for the introduction of 5G within the area of North Hertfordshire ?

Corporate Technology does not currently have any 5G introduction plans for North Hertfordshire

2.       Have councillors voted on the introduction of 5G,and if so were they provided with full disclosure regarding the significant body of evidence regarding not only serious health implications but also the destruction of critical wildlife ?

No. The introduction of 5G was briefly mentioned in the Council’s response to the Government’s “Building our Industrial Strategy” Green Paper, but no discussion of 5G by councillors has been minuted at any meeting, nor has any vote on 5G taken place on the subject.

3.       In the event of 5G introduction, and with regard to the fact no insurance company will insure against 5G .Who will be personally liable within the council for any and all claims arising with regard to 5G ?

No one within the Council will be personally liable.

4.       Does Hertfordshire County Council act as trustees regarding public spaces, roads, footpaths etc?

Please see our website on Rights of Way and in particular the Councils obligations under . https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/services/recycling-waste-and-environment/countryside-access/rights-of-way/rights-of-way.aspx#DynamicJumpMenuManager_1_Anchor_5



HCC is a landowner of public open spaces thus yes to this as well.



In regard to the 5G strategy you may also to contact the Department of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport and view the report on the following link



https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/next-generation-mobile-technologies-a-5g-strategy-for-the-uk



If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me, quoting the reference above. To find out more about Freedom of Information, please visit http://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/your-council/work/foi/



If you are unhappy with the way the County Council has handled your request for information you may request an internal review of the request. This will be carried out by a member of the County Council Legal Services Team, who has had no prior involvement with the request. Requests for an internal review should be sent to the Information Governance Unit at the address above.



If you are unhappy with the outcome of the internal review you are entitled to ask the Information Commissioner to investigate your complaint. You should write to: FOI/EIR Complaints Resolution, Information Commissioner's Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5AF.
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Post by daveiron Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:56 pm

Noticed above the County Council is " The landowner" of public spaces .
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Post by Sharpysparky Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:40 pm

How can a Corporation/business own PUBLIC land, surely they just manage it for us????
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Post by itheman Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:55 pm

Very interesting statement and thought, will be interesting to see how this plays out. Consider it's "God's land" and as "God's children" it's our land! That to me is interesting if only because the authorities swear on the Bible...now that suits me

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Post by Mrblue2015 Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:58 am

Good stuff DI!
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Post by daveiron Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:21 am

Ok , So I have now followed up with this today.
Dear Ingrid Howard.

Thank you for your response to FOI request no FOI/ENV/05/19/17522

I now wish further information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000

 1  Given the many reports from numerous experts worldwide in the field of 5G .Does Hertfordshire County Council have a duty of care as a  legal obligation ?
 2  Will Hertfordshire County Council carry out due diligence regarding any and all applications for 5G emitters to be sited on public land or affixed to street furniture ?
 3   Please provide details of Indemnity Insurance held by Hertfordshire County Council which indemnifies the Council from claims arising from exposure to 5G (non ionising  radiation).
 4  In the event that Hertfordshire County Council is not covered for any claim arising in relation to question 3 above,please list the department or position held within Hertfordshire County Council with responsibility  for approving and signing off on any permissions granted regarding 5G.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           yours sincerely :
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Post by urchinatheart Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:29 pm

Thanks for that, not hard to ask these questions. Look forward to the answers.

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Post by Sharpysparky Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:04 pm

excellent find handle
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Post by daveiron Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:19 pm

Thank for that handle, i will take a good look at it.
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Post by itheman Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:55 pm

handle wrote:Well look at the other topic on the forum:
"fancy getting tagged"
The 5g rollout is a prep for the chipping agenda.

Some say why shouldn't I be chipped, I haven't done anything wrong and got nothing to hide?

WELL - do you really trust the corrupt war criminals to be able to switch your life off?

handle wrote:the film producer Aaron Russo warned us about this in "America, from freedom to fascism".

In his meeting with Rockefeller, Rockefeller said something like:
Everyone will have a chip with their driving license, passport and credit details on. Anyone who does not do as we say will have their chip switched off so they will not be able to travel, buy food trade etc.
Remember the 1st kingsman ending?
and the film "in time" with barcodes on their arms

Totally handel, zietgiest, Rockafella interviewed in 1st movie...declares people will have these "chips" in "them" from what i recall he wasn't sure about what would terminate but i think cyanide was mentioned.
Don't get anesthetist in hospital!

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