Giro Credit Slips

by MrBullet Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:16 am

Hi all I not been paying Gas or Eleccy, well I did with the GCS at the bottom of the letter, they did not return it within 72hrs so I considered it paid. Well they applied for a warrant which was granted and arrived at my home. They were not successful. I have asked numerous times to return the original presentment so we can move forward and to date it has not been returned. They have now sent another letter telling me they are applying for another warrant on the 2nd page was this GCS (pic attached, I Hope?)(giro credit slip no bar code not stating if its joint or bank??) Can someone tell me exactly what this is please? (I feel its a test of my knowledge) meantime i'm off the postie to enquire and will post my findings Smile

Thx in advance.

P.S. cant upload pic as it exceeds storage space, (Could not upload file : exceeded total storage space. (Free space : 323) its mot even 1 Mb can anyone help pls?

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:26 am

Try to put in MS paint & save as a PNG orJPEG

what is the overall size of the upload?

by MrBullet Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:30 am

700k I'm just off the postie. will do when I get back. Hello mate im a friend of Joe. Smile

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:34 am

MrBullet wrote:700k I'm just off the postie. will do when I get back. Hello mate im a friend of Joe.

glad to have you on board

you may need to get in touch with moderators about this.

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:38 am

MrBullet wrote:2nd page was this GCS (pic attached, I Hope?)(giro credit slip no bar code not stating if its joint or bank??) Can someone tell me exactly what this is please? (I feel its a test of my knowledge) meantime i'm off the postie to enquire and will post my findings

check your reference number & compare to an old bill, if they are different then you like me have been switched to "the post joint giro era", no more joint giro slips, with out bar code means it will be cleared through the banks own clearing system instead of the post office thats all.

by MrBullet Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:08 pm

Hi LS, I went into my bank they did not have a clue what it is, the Postie said they could not accept it as it has no bar code. Me and Joe were thinking of sending it to the treasury?

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:52 pm

MrBullet wrote:Hi LS, I went into my bank they did not have a clue what it is, the Postie said they could not accept it as it has no bar code. Me and Joe were thinking of sending it to the treasury?

not too sure about this as have never done it, stands to reason post will not accept as it has no bar code. If you can find the docker dawson channel on YT, I endorse the same as he does & have got results as in never have been given proof of debt, just get sent more demands to pay. Joe will have the links to what I posted to him, he is in contact helping someone else & if you follow that you should be OK.

notice docker dawson signs both the "debtor's" & "creditors" checks, I signed these 2 plus a non bar coded possibly the same as you have & still today NO court papers for challenging debt or bullying gits at the front door demanding payment.

LS

by MrBullet Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:55 pm

Aye Docker said Looks to me like they are offering you something different, but this could be a trap to gain joinder again but if you look closely there is now bar code so be careful. what i would do only a suggestion is make a copy and take it to the post office and ask if they would accept if there were stamps upon it and it was filled in correctly would you accept it ?? , thats all new to me but i would be very careful on that one scott, could be good could be bad, but nice to see what they are trying lol, he then said....Sorry NO CODE BAR, dealing with other issues as we speak, be-careful on entrapment, they have done this for a long time in the wordings to make you think to commercial joinder, it sticks out 10 mile in-front of my screen,

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:07 pm

definatly getting joinder as if you endorse then you accept liability, see BOE 1882 sect 29 or 31 I think, or around that area.

No need for stamps I did not, just endorsed & sent back.

Definatly try post to accept - must have a bar code on & under the amount box (thick black) it will say to the effect "cheque acceptable at PO counter" or somat like that

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:24 pm

having probelms with that site, could you emailJoe & ask him to email me?

by MrBullet Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:33 pm

LionsShare wrote:having probelms with that site, could you emailJoe & ask him to email me?

I just uploaded the instrument Gas sent I get there in the end Wink

by MrBullet Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:37 pm

MrBullet wrote:
LionsShare wrote:having probelms with that site, could you emailJoe & ask him to email me?

I just uploaded the instrument Gas sent I get there in the end

Its a trick there is no bar code, BUT they ask for the chq to be made out to the PO. Of course the PO will accept it if the CHQ is made out to them. (sounds like money laundering/fraud to me). Next Q is do I stamp it up and send it to them, or endorse it through the estate and send it the Treasury?

by MrBullet Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:43 pm

Just a thought, we need to SAR the PO and GAS to see what the relationship is between the two..why make a chq payable to the PO when they don't own the meters or claim to or actually supply you? What you think?

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:54 pm

looking at this, it is different to what I have seen, i do not have an answer totally for you but don't worry, here goes.

This looks like an internal document to the post office, try asking at the counter if they will clear it through thier own clearing system, if so then that's it done deal its cleared , me I would NOT add extra cheque or cash!

there is NO clearing bank stated on the giro or no "bank giro credit" written on or money mark logo.

this to me definatly looks like a joint giro as the wording TransCash is on it.

It does say below the amount box cheque acceptable to me that is a "cheque" could be wrong though - as this is different.

to the LHS if you have your own estate with stamps it might be worth stamping it there (the circle) or initial it there if you don't have your own stamps & filling out as per the instructions at the top.

If you put 3 1st class stamps on it as per the stamp act 1981 or 1881 cna't remember - you become the "post master" - owner of that document.

Get copies made there if you are at a big post office not a small village unless they can copy it for you, rememeber this is all commerce & T.H.E.Y are trying to scam us all.

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:56 pm

just seen you extra 2 posts please wait...

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:58 pm

MrBullet wrote:Just a thought, we need to SAR the PO and GAS to see what the relationship is between the two..why make a chq payable to the PO when they don't own the meters or claim to or actually supply you? What you think?

YES definatly do this

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:06 pm

MrBullet wrote:
Its a trick there is no bar code, BUT they ask for the chq to be made out to the PO. Of course the PO will accept it if the CHQ is made out to them. (sounds like money laundering/fraud to me). Next Q is do I stamp it up and send it to them, or endorse it through the estate and send it the Treasury?

There is no bar code - mmm possibly a trick they are always trying to catch you out.

did think you perhaps might have hidden the bar code when copying to be shown here.

what to do ?

several options.

1. stamp it up send to treasrey - never done that so don't know.
2. stamp it up (sign in the cirle LHS) & endorse send to them as is.
3. stamp it up through the estate & & endorse send to them as is.
4. go to post office & ask if it will cleared through interbank clearing as is, remember there is no bar code, if yes then done deal, choose 2 or 3 with out sending to them & do it through post office.

I have always done through posting back to utilities Co' & to date not had ant real bother but time will tell.

please let me know how you get on.

LS

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:11 pm

see the "no fee at PO counter" this from my experience could well be a cheque!

by MrBullet Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:20 pm

Nice one I think we will start with the SAR, here are a few Q's I have thought of for now.....
[1] In accessing, handling, disclosing, processing and using data personal to the subject, does the data user (PO) operate in a fiduciary capacity to the subject and if so which fiduciary capacity: a) Executor? b) Trustee? c) Beneficiary? d) Power of attorney? e) Sovereign? f) other? Please specify;
[2] Please clarify as to whom the subject should make a cheque payable and to which contracting venue address such should be sent.
[3] What relationship does POST OFFICE LIMITED have with BRITISH GAS PLC?
[4] How does BRITISH GAS PLC receive payment from POST OFFICE LIMITED?
[5] Does BRITISH GAS PLC send a bill accounting for VAT to POST OFFICE LIMITED for payment?

by **LionsShare** Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:29 pm

MrBullet spot on, thats it

by MrBullet Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:04 pm

LionsShare wrote:MrBullet spot on, thats it

Time will tell eh mate?

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